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12-17-2009, 01:32 PM | #31 | |
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And Myron is one heck of a good cook that's a fact.
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12-17-2009, 01:35 PM | #32 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 12-08-09
Location: Littleton, CO
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I'm not a member yet, but will be in January after I complete my judging class. I just started cooking contests in 2009, and the primary factor for me joining is the fact that there are almost 10 KCBS contests within a 3-4 hour driving radius of my home.
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12-17-2009, 01:36 PM | #33 | ||
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You speak of people dropping KCBS then state how respected it is and its that respect that I think would allow the premium cost to fly. If KCBS had not caved to organizers protests they may have won out. I have done non sanctioned events and realize how much better off I am at a KCBS event. The first question I ask about a new event is if its a KCBS event. I think that if they stood strong and required it that it would stick. Even if the extra fee was just rolled into the prize money. If you don't hit them in the pocket they really won't budge.
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12-17-2009, 01:40 PM | #34 | |
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So you are sayin people should pay to join cause its the biggest and the best. HMMM Hows that working for them.
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12-17-2009, 01:43 PM | #35 |
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Location: Lakeland Florida
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Membership is at all time highs and from what I hear there were 40+ new members as a result of the first pitmasters show. Now they may not be competition cooks but in fact competition cooks are a minority.
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12-17-2009, 01:43 PM | #36 |
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Join Date: 07-14-09
Location: Lake Sinclair, GA
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Other organizations that I either am currently a member or have been a member of
require membership to compete in the event. If you're not a member when you sign up, there's an extra charge for membership (or a discount if you're already a member). KCBS is inexpensive, relatively. Mind you, I'm not a member, and I have no need to be a member as it's currently designed. However, if it were required, it wouldn't be a big deal, to me anyway... The sports event sanctioning bodies that I work with require membership (USA Swimming, USA Triathlon). For some reason, the cooking sanctioning bodies (CASI, KCBS, MBN, etc) dont.
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12-17-2009, 01:44 PM | #37 | |
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You should re read the thread. I think that is the opposite of what Ford is trying to say.
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12-17-2009, 01:58 PM | #38 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Location: Blue Springs, MO
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Memphis in May also has the benefit of being the name of one of the country's largest contests. So that helps with name recognition.
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12-17-2009, 02:01 PM | #39 |
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I still say that if you define a society by a region. You are capping the potential.
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12-17-2009, 02:04 PM | #40 | |
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12-17-2009, 02:12 PM | #41 |
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Join Date: 07-31-08
Location: Belton, mo
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I pay my money just for the Bull Sheet, everybody here likes to read it. It is pretty crappy that you can't even get a free bumper sticker. But the RD membership is almost priceless if you don't have a business.
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12-17-2009, 02:14 PM | #42 | |
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Well I can understand what you are saying but you have to realize that almost every other BBQ association or society uses the KCBS information as there rules for competition. Either by accepting sanctioning from them or borrowing heavily from their format. As much as the everyday person isn't going to know what KCBS is they won't know what FBA, MBN, PNWBA etc are. But anyone who has been around BBQ knows of or has heard of KCBS. Of course there are exceptions to everything but this holds true throughout the country. I recently did some research on other sanctioning bodies only to find that four have there own rules and one of them is KCBS. All the others either use KCBS or have few if any rules about competition. The three others have rules that very closely mimick KCBS rules. The KC in KCBS doesn't refer to KCK or Missouri. It refers to a specific style of BBQ which the cooks do their best to emulate. It would be the same as a TBS (Texas BBQ Society) or a NCBS (North Carolina BBQ Society). Each would refer to a specific style of BBQ rather then just the region.
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12-17-2009, 02:40 PM | #43 |
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Join Date: 02-06-07
Location: Rolling down the river between St Louis and New Orleans
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When they tried the added fee for non KCBS members last year I though they went about it the wrong way. They should have charged the amount of the first year KCBS membership for the head cook at the first contest they cooked and signed them up. After that it would be a non factor for that team as long as they kept the same head cook.
Another way of doing it could have been, instead of charging more for a non KCBS member to enter a contest, they could have given a discounted entry fee for KCBS members which could have given an incentive to join.
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12-17-2009, 02:51 PM | #44 |
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I believe incentives will drive membership. The more, the more.
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12-17-2009, 03:58 PM | #45 |
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Maybe they need to offer as "lifetime" membership. Or a 5 year membership. This might help with the people who do maybe two contests a year. I think that the fee for non KCBS member teams should be more then the membership. This would definitely push people to join. Also as I mentioned maybe the family membership should apply to a team membership.
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