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04-19-2009, 11:37 AM | #1 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
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Questions To Contest Organizers
1) How much do you pay KCBS to sanction a contest?
2) What does KCBS sanctioning uniquely provide to your contest? 3) How many paid admissions does KCBS sanctioning bring through your gates?
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04-19-2009, 11:51 AM | #2 |
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1) What is it now? $350? plus the per team cost
IBCA is only $25 and $3 per team 2) Some teams prefer to cook KCBS over IBCA If you can get a high percentage of experienced CBJs That is very helpful 3) None
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04-19-2009, 12:58 PM | #3 | |
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Over 50 teams it's $450 plus $12 a team So a 50 team contest would pay $450 + $600 (50 X $12) = $1050 There is also some rep expenses like travel, miles, stuff like that. I'm not an organizer so your last two questions I can't answer.
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04-19-2009, 01:47 PM | #4 |
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04-19-2009, 03:16 PM | #5 | |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
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I'm not concerned with teams that would activiely seek out KCBS sanctioning, let them go to Kansas.
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04-19-2009, 03:49 PM | #6 |
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Nice.
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04-19-2009, 04:21 PM | #7 | |
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2) As you might guess, the decision weather a 'spectator' will pay to attend a venue has everything to do with what they get for their payment, and little to do with the sanctioning. 3) Not sure what the 'go to Kansas' bit means, but it seems rude at worst and misguided at best. Something to chew on though, contestents, which are required as part of a competition, may very well care if a contest is sanctioned by KCBS. |
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04-19-2009, 04:21 PM | #8 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
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The costs are all correct -
KCBS doesn't bring any people through the gate I'm a first time Q organizer - Bar•B•Q Pit, Norwalk CT Our Rep answered lots (and I mean lots) of questions, did a lot of hand holding and was well worth the $300 sanctioning fee. To us there true value is in the competition itself, I've watched them work and they take 90% of the headaches away from us (the organizer) - they also seem to add credibility to a sanctioned event - Fairness, standardization, prize payouts - I'm sure there are other things they add You can download the santioning packet from there website, first couple pages tells it all IBCA isn't an option in CT, we're using KCBS for BBQ / NEBS for grilling and oth ancillary contests greg norwalkbbq.com |
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04-19-2009, 05:28 PM | #9 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Am I missing something? What's the point of asking about the benefits of KCBS sanctioning then making a comment that you don't care to seek teams who want KCBS sanctioning?? If you're planning a contest with that kind of attitude, I can't wait for the post-event message here wondering why it all failed.
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04-19-2009, 06:44 PM | #10 | |
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What does KCBS bring to cooks - fair and equal rules all the time. With 10 teams you don't have a show and with KCBS you do. That's what organizers understand. No cooks = no show and paid gate. Of course most midwest contests don't charge paid admission. They figure out how to make money and give people a free show. Without sanctioning it's a popularity contest in some cases. Get IBCA to send reps to sanction your contests or FBA or form your own. Or run for the BOD at KCBS and make changes. But you're losing midwest teams that mey want to go east and compete with this kind of post.
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04-19-2009, 07:10 PM | #11 | |
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Yeaaah Baby! My kind of promoter!
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04-19-2009, 07:17 PM | #12 |
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04-19-2009, 09:01 PM | #13 | |
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Ok Brother ........But it couldnt be considered a common thing What money there is in contests is not at the gate
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04-19-2009, 09:03 PM | #14 |
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Hey What am I chopped liver Going to park you five miles away at Stagecoach
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04-19-2009, 09:22 PM | #15 |
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you had a good thread goin'...
... then it spontaneously combusted... most times it's just better to take the high road.
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