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02-08-2008, 03:48 PM | #121 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-07-04
Location: Federal Way WA
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KCBS has a history of husband and wife on the Board together. Gary and Carolyn and at least on two other occations. There is nothing new but the difference in past the Board was a rubber stamp for what ever the leadership wanted to do, if you don't believe that talk to Ed Roith. Now KCBS has grown inspite of bad business policies and there are those on the Board that want the Board to be more responcive to the membership. Bad habits die hard and some don't want it to die.
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02-08-2008, 04:11 PM | #122 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-25-05
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
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I sent a letter to all of the BOD early this morning. Here it is:
It is with my deepest concern to write to all of you about the motion made by Troy Black to adopt a Nepotism rule and invoke it for the KCBS. BS is what stands out to me here. I believe the voice of the voters was heard in the last election and to my knowledge no one has a problem with a husband and a wife both serving on the BOD as long as there is no questionable practices taking place. As a paying member of the KCBS I am beginning to become more concerned with the motion and possibly question some of the ethics and integrity of motion's author. I urge as a member in good standing that this motion be rescinded and put to rest. James D. Fitzsimmons "BBQ with Attitude!" This reply was sent from Don Harwell: Dear James, First of all I want to thank you very much for your email to me regarding this nepotism issue. I will be printing out all of the emails that I've received and personally carrying them to the meeting tonight, February 8th. I am trying very hard to be sure that the members are spoken for at the board meetings and these many emails will certainly support my efforts. I personally think that the membership spoke when they made their choices in the election for board of directors. I do not favor the policy being considered and if put to a vote, then I will vote against any restrictions regarding who can or can not run for the board of directors positions. I am very much in favor of having the actions and discussions of the board open to members of KCBS, all members both what is coming up for discussion, i.e. the agenda made available in advance to the members as well as the minutes readily available soon after the meeting. In fact it is my dream that perhaps we can eventually even make a recorded podcast available to all members. There are many things that are happening that should be brought to the members' attention. Thanks again for your email, Don Harwell ......and I also received this response from Merl Whitebrook:Thank you for your message to the BOD. Please ask a friend to write as well. I received a call last night that Troy believes he still has the votes. The BOD needs to hear the message of the members loud and clear. Thank you again for writing to the BOD. Remember you can get copies of the agenda by writing to Carolyn at the office. We need to hear from our members about issues. Yours in Q Merl Whitebook Hmmm funny that Troy Black hasn't responded. If there was any way on earth I could get up there for the meeting tonight I would in a heartbeat. If anyone from Columbia is going, I can drive to Columbia if you'll allow me to ride along. Call me at 573-896-8547 or 573-230-9174 if anyone is going. ~Jim
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02-08-2008, 04:18 PM | #123 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 05-28-06
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
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I just noticed something... if you used the link on the KCBS site to email all of the BOD's, sorry to say, but the newly elected ones are NOT on the email list.
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02-08-2008, 04:22 PM | #124 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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I received replies from 4 BOD's yesterday ... although I don't believe mine were word for word the same. Eitherway, good to know that some of the BOD's agree.
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02-08-2008, 04:42 PM | #125 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 04-14-04
Location: Choctaw, OK
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Awesome replies, RCS!
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02-08-2008, 04:43 PM | #126 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 02-26-07
Location: ADA, MI
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I hear ya Chris.....was in the middle of reading responces when ..POOF....deleted. In fact, anything pertaining to this issue was deleted. Kinda makes one wonder what's on who's agenda,and who the puppeteer might be?
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02-08-2008, 04:45 PM | #127 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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I was in the middle of typing a reply and poof. Therefore I started a new thread just now. As of a minute ago it was still there.
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02-08-2008, 04:46 PM | #128 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 04-14-04
Location: Choctaw, OK
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Good luck with that, Bobby!
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02-08-2008, 04:46 PM | #129 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 04-14-07
Location: Lakeland Florida
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Mr. Black did respond to my original email questioning if Carol would be allowed to be a BOD mdmber. "There is nothing in the policy being discussed that would prevent any elected director from serving their term as elected.
Troy" I then asked about how it would imapct others and again expressed the opinion that it was not a good motion. Sent it to all members. Troy didn't respond to that one.
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02-08-2008, 04:49 PM | #130 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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I tell ya what though, after today I think I've realized that the problems do not end with one certain board member. Now I think I get the good ole boys (err, people) comment.
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02-08-2008, 04:50 PM | #131 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 04-14-07
Location: Lakeland Florida
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My prediction for tonight. Mr. Black will withdraw the motion. It will appear on a future agenda at 72 hours and 1 minute before the meeting. That or the new president will force a vote and get his defeated once and for all.
And I loved the deleted post on another Forum. If anybody has a copy and could post it here It would be nice to see. Especially that part about us writing advertisers complaining about what's going on with an organization they Sponsor. At this rate I'll go from "on the road to being a farker" to a "farker" in a couple of days. First thing I do tomorrow is check this site, even before making coffee. Early to bed for me and I expect that the BOD meeting may go awhile.
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02-08-2008, 04:55 PM | #132 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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Did Ray used to be on the board?
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02-08-2008, 05:03 PM | #133 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-25-05
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
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I posted a comment of that Dictatorship of a forum and it got nixed within a minute of it being posted. And to think I used to really like that forum.....at least until my freedom of speech was taken away. Thanks Phil for this OPEN forum where we can have a voice. Yeah...me thinks Ray is getting something from someone over there. Hmmmm.....
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02-08-2008, 05:08 PM | #134 | |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 04-14-07
Location: Lakeland Florida
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02-08-2008, 05:15 PM | #135 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-21-03
Location: Bandera Owner in Missouri
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As long as everyone keeps it civil and doesn't start taking pot shots at one another, then you have policed yourselves and discussions like this can remain OPEN... But beleive me, there is no less than 8 pairs of eyes keeping a watch on things here just in case someone would tend to "drift" a little.... I must commend the posters in the comps forum.....you all show the same class here as you do out on the road....I'm proud to be one of you!
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