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11-15-2013, 01:35 PM | #1 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 07-06-13
Location: Oklahoma
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30 gallon UDS
I am interested in making a UDS and was wondering how well a 30 gallon drum functions as one. I can buy an unlined new 30 gallon drum for $65 locally; they cost a bit more because they aren't as common.
I don't quite need the volume of a 55 gallon drum and I could save a lot of money in lump charcoal consumption (I'm a thrifty kinda gal.) I am assuming the inner diameter would accommodate the 18.5" Weber grills, and that it would basically be the size (height) of a 18.5 WSM? I just need one big enough to do a spatchcock 12 lb turkey for example.. or full rack of ribs (like up to 4 racks). If it will save me a lot of charcoal, it'd be worth it I think. Advice will be very much appreciated--thanks.
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11-15-2013, 01:46 PM | #2 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-15-09
Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL
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BobBrisket made on for his son a few years ago. The thread is a hoot.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...highlight=muds I think the drum might be a size down from 30, not sure. Oh, and the 30 gallon ones rock.
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11-15-2013, 01:57 PM | #3 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 08-22-13
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana
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You can can get a unlined delivered from Zorotools for $ 50
It'll do great as a UDS...just like a 18" WSM. Very simple build and will be a great smoker. You can use a 18 inch Weber Kettle charcoal great for your basket and wrap/tie with expanded steel. Install your intake nipples/ball valves, therm, and grates. Good luck on the build i'm sure it'll be great. I was going to build one until i decided on a Jumbo Mini. Here's a link to the build, there might be some ideas you can use. The only thing different you'd have to do to the basket is put legs on it. http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=173767
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11-15-2013, 02:18 PM | #4 | |
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Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
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11-15-2013, 02:21 PM | #5 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-15-09
Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL
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I know. It's tiny! About the same size as the 14.5 WSM.
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11-15-2013, 03:20 PM | #6 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
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30 gallon UDS vs 18" WSM
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You say you want to do a spatched 12lb turkey - here is what a 5lb chicken looks like on a WSM You can do 4 racks of ribs easily cooking 2 on each grate grate. More if you roll them or use racks and shingle them. Now, Its just me, but I don't like jockeying meats around on cookers and even though the drums and bullets all have 2 grates I prefer to cook on the top grate. YMMV. Here is my 30 gallon drum with a Weber lid, which I use direct. You could do all that you want on it but you will have to rotate the top and lower grates, which if you are not careful can cause flare ups and runaway temps. You could always use a deflector or waterpan, but doing so you will use more fuel than cooking direct- big deal! Where you are caught up in thinking about saving charcoal is all these bigass charcoal baskets that folks are building and they are totally fuel hogs. I have never added charcoal to any of my cooks and only use 10-12 lbs. of briqs for heavy cooks and the meats are done way before the charcoal is out, and I am able to snuff it out and reuse it! I use smaller rings of expando that fit inside my rings that are built on an 18" kettle charcoal grate. This one pictured holds more than enough for a rib cook. Personally I think that the 55 gallon drums perform better and are easier to control. And this is coming from someone thats built 15, 30, 55's and 85 gallon drums. If you've just got to have a 30 gallon drum, I'm sure it will fit your needs.
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11-15-2013, 05:13 PM | #7 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 08-23-13
Location: Detroit Mi
Name/Nickname : tom
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I agree completely, I don't find my 55 gal drum burns any more than my bullet, and much easier to cook on and clean. The having to rotating racks is what got me to build my UDS's. Once in awhile I have to rotate on the 55 gal, but I have legs on my racks which make it alot easier. I never had flare ups as any time any lids open on my smokers I close the intakes first.
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11-15-2013, 08:41 PM | #8 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-17-13
Location: Burleson Tx
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People love the Pit Barrel Cookers and they are 30 gallon and basically the same as UDS.
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11-15-2013, 09:43 PM | #9 | |
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Join Date: 03-15-13
Location: Beaufort, NC
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11-16-2013, 02:40 AM | #10 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-13-10
Location: Houston, TX
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I built one a while ago and love it. I ended up using it more than the bigger UDS because I could wheel it onto the patio easily.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=133467 One more mod I added later was to add a 1.25" intake at the bottom for high heat cooks. I wasn't getting enough airflow with the 3 intakes that I had, probably because of the riser pipes. Smoked a 12lb turkey on it last Thanksgiving and it worked like a champ. +1 for sourcing your drum from Zoro Tools. Delivered to my door for $50 (shipping included).
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11-16-2013, 09:24 AM | #11 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 08-23-13
Location: Detroit Mi
Name/Nickname : tom
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I modified it to work better for me. They go on sale for $60 at Lowes. I put in my own rack bolts, cut out the bottom coal tray they had, made a coal basket. If you need more photos or details just let me know, I used it for 2 yrs, loaned to a friend who used it for 1 1/2 yrs now another friend is using it. It would smoke grill dead steady even in 30 MPH winds all year round. It was just a bit too small for my needs. I also made a grill rack for it.
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11-16-2013, 11:50 AM | #12 | |
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Join Date: 03-15-13
Location: Beaufort, NC
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It's good to hear that the 55 gal drums are so efficient they burn about the same amount of fuel as a much smaller cooker. Not in any hurry, but if I stumble over an unlined big drum at a low price I think I'll pick it up. |
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