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08-18-2010, 01:38 PM | #46 |
is one Smokin' Farker
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08-18-2010, 01:59 PM | #47 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 04-14-10
Location: San Francisco, CA and Phu Quoc Island Vietnam
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Favorite: VitaPrep
Least favorite:Daughter's easy bake oven - too low & too slow [QUOTE=zydecopaws;1371804], my favorite is my set of Miracle Blades, especially the Santoku knife (laugh it up all you knife snobs;).
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08-18-2010, 02:03 PM | #48 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 04-02-09
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New favorite is my dehydrator for peppers (when I can't smoke them). Least favorite is the mop & broom :)
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08-18-2010, 02:04 PM | #49 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-15-09
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I know. I like the little opener on my Swiss Army knife too - it's come in handy several times.
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08-18-2010, 05:12 PM | #50 |
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Join Date: 09-18-06
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Thats the one but if my link works scroll down to the 38 uses section for it. A.F. as well here. Dave
P-38 CAN OPENER 3 for $1.00 or $0.75 each Please visit our on-line catalog to purchase Genuine Issue P-38 can openers. DogTagsRus has teamed with Georgia-Outfitters to bring you the most concise history we can of the P-38 and P-51 Can Openers. We are trying to bring to you both the technical and humanitarian history of the "thingamajig" know as "The Greatest Army Invention Ever" - the P-38. For all your Tru-Spec, BDU and military clothing needs please visit our friends at Georgia-Outfitters.com P-38 CAN OPENER - ENGINEERING DRAWINGS FOR SALE - SEE INFORMATION BELOW P-38 Can Opener History and Information OPENER, CAN, HAND, FOLDING, TYPE I P-38 CAN OPENER "John Wayne" The P-38 can opener has been called on of the greatest military inventions of all time. The P-38 can opener is still in the military inventory and is currently assigned NSN 7330-00-242-3506. Below is listed select technical excerpts from the military specification that addresses the P38 can openers. The information is reprinted here verbatim from the actual military specification. Information on the P-51 can be located on the P-51 Information page [Here]. HISTORY of the P-38 Can Opener Being technically minded we overlook the fact that most people look for the humanity in things before the engineering for this reason we have enclosed a reprint of the article written by Col. Renita Menyhert, then Major Renita Foster. This reprint is with her permission and we feel that is a must read for anyone interested in the history of the P-38 Can Opener. The original article titled The greatest Army Invention ever, appeared in the military publication PENTAGRAM on August 18, 1986. The article has been copied and published many more times since it's authoring in 1986. The resolution of the article copy we were able to obtain is dismal at best. We contacted Col. Renita Foster and she was kind enough to e-mail her original draft and we have published it on a separate page for you to review. To review the original draft of Col. Renita Fosters composition it's entirety click on the below button to be taken directly to the page. Dear Kobie, I sent a note and P38 to your Dog Tag business address, but just in case it didn't make it I'll do it here as well. First, I do congratulate you on such an ingenious business. I'm sure it will take you many places in addition to college. I am so touched someone your age is interested in this marvelous invention and you have my permission to use it anyway you choose. In fact, I would love to see it in print again so help yourself. The P38 was one of my favorite stories. It took three years to write and also won me an award so it is special and I'm pleased to hear people are still interested in it. I happen to be from Texas also. Although I was born in Dallas, my father was in the Air Force and we moved quite a bit. However, I spent many years in San Antonio and now regard that as home. As soon as my 30 years is up I hope to move back their for good. I am in the Army, by the way, and have enjoyed being a feature writer for the service most of my career. I hope you enjoy the article. Good luck and let me know how your report comes out in class. By the way, my husband proposed with a P38, that's why it's so special to me! Sincerely, Col. Renita Menyhert (Foster) CECOM PAO Monday, May 10, 2004 For more publications, articles and stories about the P-38 Can Opener please see our dedicated ARTICLES page. The P-38 Can Opener was designed by the Army for use in the field. These two photographs show the P-38 and it's issue wrapper as it would have been found in C-Rations of 1945. Look in the lower left corner of the photograph on the left, the photograph on the right is an enlargement of the original photograph to show the P-38's in more detail. One of the more interesting things about the P-38 can opener is that if anyone knows anything about the military then they do not do anything very fast. Well the P-38 appears to be one of the exceptions to the rule. In 1942 the P-38 was conceived, designed, prototyped and went into production in less than 30 days. For the Government to do anything in less than 30 days is a phenomenal accomplishment. Writer and Author Don Lancaster, webmaster of www.tinaja.com expresses his interest in the P-38 as one of the greatest inventions of all time in his article, Elegant Simplicity. This article appeared in Midnight Engineering January-February, 1994. Below is an excerpt from that article that Mr. Lancaster graciously allowed us to publish here. One of the goals I have consistently sought out over the years is to develop designs and products which inherently possess an elegant simplicity. Like many truly great concepts, elegant simplicity can be hard to pin down. But you sure know it when you've got it. # # #One clue is when industry insiders end up shaking their heads in stunned disbelief. Elegant simplicity combines the best of Schumacher's "do more with less" and Buckminster Fuller's "appropriate technology". Yeah, Whole Earth Catalog stuff. It goes way on back to that ancient Ockham'sRazor principle of the most fundamentally direct explanation often ending up the most correct. Or Einstein's "Always seek out the simplest possible solution -but none simpler". Probably the best way we can get a handle on elegant simplicity is to look at several products and designs that clearly have it. Here are my selections for a few of the all time winners . . . I consider the P-38 can opener to be by far the finest invention of the twentieth century. Bar none. Compared to the P-38, such utter frivolities as radio, television, autos, or aviation are not even in the same league. Yes, even Hostess Twinkies pale by comparison. For sheer bang for the buck and inherent ergonomics, nothing can remotely compare. The P-38 opens cans. Any classic tin can, any time, any place. It runs forever. No batteries required. Fully portable. Self-protecting. Cost is zilch. No users manuals or tutorials. Let's see what we got here. Two tiny pieces of stamped steel. One is grooved for extra strength. The blade folds flat for storage or pops open for use. The first time you see one, you will swear that it couldn't possibly work. But it sure does. The secret is "walking" around the folded rim present on all classic cans. Your thumb and forefinger form a double lever that pivots on the rim. With a surprising amount of force magnification. Probably many tons of pressure per square inch at the blade edge. The elegant simplicity here is profound: ultra low cost and very small size. Perfectly matched to both the user and the job to be done. Use of the absolute minimum of force concentration to reliably carry out one well defined task. While a throwaway item intended for one time use, these last forever. A classic in every sense of the word. To review Don Lancaster's complete article and Midnight Engineering click below For more publications, articles and stories about the P-38 Can Opener please see our dedicated ARTICLES page. TECHNICAL DETAILS and ENGINEERING behind the P-38 Can Opener Below are selected excerpts from the Government specification that covers the P-38 can opener. MILITARY SPECIFICATION - OPENERS, CAN, HAND, FOLDING Pertinent Documents: A-A-52203 - 1996 2-9-148 MIL-O-20582 MIL-O-20582C - 1967 MIL-O-20582D - 1970 MIL-O-20582E - 1988 7330-00-242-3506 7330002423506 Official Nomenclature: OPENER, CAN, HAND, FOLDING, TYPE I This specification is mandatory for use by all Department and agencies of the Department of Defense. 1.1 Scope. This specification covers a lightweight, folding, hand-operated can opener for severing tops of rimmed metal cans. 1.2 Classification. The can openers shall be of the following types as specified (see 6.2): Type I - Small, for opening individual portion-sized cans in the field. Type II - Large, for opening group portion-sized cans in the field. 2.1.2 Other Government documents, drawings, and publications. The following other Government documents, drawings, and publications form a part of this specification to the extent specified herein. Unless otherwise specified, the issues shall be those in effect on the date of the solicitation. DRAWINGS U.S. ARMY NATICK RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, AND ENGINEERING CENTER 2-9-148 - Opener, Can, Hand, Folding, Type I; Can Opener and Directions for Use 5-13-4260 - Opener, Can, Hand, Folding, Type II 3.2.1 Carbon Steel, sheet and strip. The material for the can openers shall be carbon steel sheet and strip conforming to numbers 1050, 1055, or 1065 of QQ-S-700. 3.3 Design and Construction. The can openers shall be designed and constructed as specified herein and as shown on the applicable drawing. The openers shall completely sever the tops of circular, rectangular, or tray pack cans, as applicable, when tested as specified in 4.4.4.2. The openers shall be assembled so the knife blade offers resistance to changing from the closed position to the open position and from the open position to the closed position. Opening of the blade shall be accomplished by use of the hand without the use of an auxiliary instrument. It is not required that the blade be retained firmly in the open position. 3.3.1 Heat treatment (hardness). The body and the blade of the can openers shall be heat treated to a Rockwell "C" hardness of not less than 47 nor more than 55 and shall be verified by the test specified in 4.4.4.1. 3.3.2 Knife Blade. The knife blade shall have a sharp, tapered, cutting edge formed by grinding, milling, shearing or coining. 3.3.3 Finish (plating). All burrs and rough edges shall be removed. The opener shall be tin plated in accordance with type I of MIL-T-10727. The thickness of plating on all surfaces shall be not less than 0.0001 inch when tested as specified in 4.4.4.1. 3.4 Identification Marking. Each type I and type II can opener shall be permanently and distinctly stamped with letters "U.S." and the manufacturer's name or trademark. Markings shall be of the size and in the locations shown on the applicable drawing. Markings shall be applied so there is no distortion or unevenness opposite the markings or penetration through the metal. 4.5.3 Cutting. Each sample can opener shall be tested to determine that it completely severs the tops of both circular and rectangular cans as required by 3.3. The test for the type I can opener shall be performed on one commercial No. 2 circular can and one rectangular can measuring approximately 6-5/8 inches long by 4-1/8 inches wide by a minimum of 1-5/8 inches high. The test for the type II can opener shall be performed on one rectangular 1001 by 1206 by 200 size tray pack can, and on one commercial No. 10 circular can. Any non-conformance with the specified requirements shall constitute failure of this test. 5.1.1.1 Unit packing. Each can opener, with the blade folded flat, shall be packed in an envelope made from material comprised of not less than 0.0005-inch thick polyethylene coated on not less than 25 pounds basis weight (24 by 36 - 500) unbleached Kraft paper and the seams shall be formed by heat sealing. The envelope containing one can opener shall be closed by heat sealing. The maximum dimensions of the envelope shall be 1-11/16 inches by 2-3/4 inches for the type I can opener, and 2 inches by 3-1/4 inches for the type II can opener. 5.4.1 Special Marking. Each unit pack shall have printed thereon a diagram and directions for use as shown on the applicable drawing. 6.1 Intended Use - The type I can opener is intended for use by military personnel in the field to open combat-type rations, in-flight rations, and emergency rations. The type II can opener is intended for use by military personnel in the field to open military tray pack and round can components of the 36-soldier Tray Pack Meal Modules. 6.5 Subject term (key word) listing. Can Can opener Meal module T-ration Tray pack This can opener was designed to open smaller cans such as commercial No. 2 can with a top diameter of 2-1/8 inches. A #2 can would be the same size as a standard soup can. In section 5.4.1 Special Markings. It states that each unit pack shall have the diagram and directions for use shown on the drawing imprinted on the physical packaging. Official Government Drawing for the P-38 can opener. Click the photo below to be taken to the drawing. Actual copies of this drawing are available for purchase in our on-line catalog. Click on the Photo to the Left to see a copy of the P-38 Government engineering drawing. Official Drawing Title: OPENER, CAN, HAND, FOLDING, TYPE I, CAN OPENER AND DIRECTIONS FOR USE Reprints of this drawing are available for purchase. We have had so many requests for Original Issue - full sized - sets of prints or engineering drawings that we now offer the prints for sale. Plotted as full D sized engineering drawings these prints make great wall hangers, posters or conversation starters. There is so much history associated with these can openers that almost 8 out of 10 people will instantly recognize the can opener and the prints encourage conversation - lead in to war stories and we guarantee at the least they will conjure up dreams, memories and tall tales. We take framed prints to all our on site shows and venues such as car shows, gun shows, etc. The prints themselves generate as much interest as the can openers. Many people want to copies of the engineering drawings after they know the history of the P-38 or P-51. Note: The drawing above has been modified for use on the web site and has been watermarked to protect our research efforts. Purchased copies of these prints are original copies (unadulterated) and are delivered plotted as D sized (22"x34") engineering prints. NOTE: Both the P-38 and P-51 can opener is considered contraband when traveling on a commercial air line. These can openers will be confiscated by airport security personnel. See the below excerpt from a testimonial. For more publications, articles and stories about the P-38 Can Opener please see our dedicated ARTICLES page. Master Sgt. Steve Wilson38 ways to use the P-38 private 1. can opener 2. seam ripper 3. screwdriver 4. clean fingernails 5. cut fishing line 6. open paint cans 7. window scraper 8. scrape around floor corners 9. digging 10. clean out groove on Tupperware lids 11. reach in and clean out small cracks 12. scrape around edge of boots 13. bottle opener 14. {in the field} gut fish 15. {in the field} scale fish 16. test for "doneness" when baking on a camp fire 17. prying items 18. strip wire 19. scrape pane in the field 20. lift key on flip top cans 21. chisel 22. barter 23. marking tool 24. deflating tires 25. clean sole of boot/shoe 26. pick teeth 27. measurement 28. striking flint 29. stirring coffee 30. puncturing plastic coating 31. knocking on doors 32. Morse Code 33. box cutter 34. opening letters 35. write emergency messages 36. scratch an itch 37. save as a souvenir 38. rip off rank for on the spot promotion
We cannot express enough thanks to Georgia-Outfitters.com and Mr. James Clarke. In the interest of offering the most comprehensive history of the P-38 and P-51 can openers on the Internet, Mr. Clarke has teamed up with DogTagsRus to work together so we may expand our offerings as it relates to these can openers. DogTagsRus wants to thank Mr. Clarke for his contributions and specifically the use of his photographs. By allowing DogTagsRus to use existing photographs we have been able to concentrate on bringing you more information by not having to spend our time duplicating Mr. Clarke's efforts. # # #
Plantation Lumber Company � 1965-2004 Dave
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08-19-2010, 08:33 AM | #51 |
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Join Date: 08-16-10
Location: Westbury, New York
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Wow, a flying can opener!
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08-19-2010, 09:04 AM | #52 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 03-07-05
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if you are looking for a flying can opener don't forget about the insignia for and nickname of 6 squadron royal airforce aka the flying can openers. they were one of the original tank busters. you can just see the insignia in the *v* below
better shown below when the squadron continued to use the unoffical insignia
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08-19-2010, 10:05 AM | #53 |
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I have on, but my favorite is the Thermapen. RED!
Least favorite is the little glass chopper thingy my wife uses.
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08-19-2010, 10:43 AM | #54 |
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Join Date: 07-14-09
Location: Lake Sinclair, GA
Name/Nickname : Hance
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Favorite: Coffee grinder
Least Favorite: Meat grinder. Works great, but is a #$%^# to clean.
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08-19-2010, 10:58 AM | #55 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 06-05-09
Location: Mooresville, IN
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What's a "little glass chopper thingy"?
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08-19-2010, 11:02 AM | #56 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-15-09
Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL
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Probably something like this:
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08-19-2010, 11:11 AM | #57 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 06-05-09
Location: Mooresville, IN
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking he meant, but I really like ours. (Isn't that the "Slap 'N' Chop"? We use ours a lot when making tacos, burritos, fajitas, or other stuff we need a lot of chopping done quick. Hey 4 kids will go through some chopped veg QUICK!
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08-19-2010, 11:22 AM | #58 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-15-09
Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL
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It probably depends on the one you've got. I've got one that isn't even very good at chopping boiled eggs...so why do I still have it?
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Guerry [FONT=Book Antiqua]Pit Beeatch for Team Munchkin[/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][B]Avatar by Northwest BBQ [/B][/FONT]"...In nature, there are predators. I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility and murder..." Werner Herzog |
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08-19-2010, 12:38 PM | #59 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 08-16-10
Location: Westbury, New York
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I forgot the things I DIDN'T like in my kitchen (way too late!): potato peeler my stupid sink (don't ask!... or maybe do...) my refrigerator
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08-19-2010, 01:03 PM | #60 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 06-05-09
Location: Mooresville, IN
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Errrrr.....did you buy it SPECIFICALLY for chopping eggs? Do you chop anything else with it? My favorite thing to chop with it is onions (although I don't mind the knife work with onions) and olives. I hate trying to hold those little slippery things!
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