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Old 12-05-2008, 10:28 AM   #2071
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JMHO, but I think everyone puts too much emphasis on sealing the kettle lids. YMMV of course.
Yep; especially in California.
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:59 AM   #2072
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Conversely, f-it all and just go with the original drum lid for the classical flat-top approach
This will probably be the end result. Its the visions of granduer of having two racks full of meat that had me going down this path.

That and the Thanksgiving turkey was a very tight fit...

As the wife and I are empty nesters now, probably will not be more than 1 Brisket or 1 Butt on there very often and if I had a crowd I could fit two Briskets or 2 Butts if needed.

Not done hammering on this lid just yet, but close.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:14 PM   #2073
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If you still have the kettle bottom you can cut it off a couple of inches from the top and slip it inside your drum...that way your lid will fit. A few folks have done this mod with great results. Search around for pics of Swamprb's mod...
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:47 PM   #2074
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If you still have the kettle bottom you can cut it off a couple of inches from the top and slip it inside your drum...that way your lid will fit. A few folks have done this mod with great results. Search around for pics of Swamprb's mod...
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If you still have the kettle bottom you can cut it off a couple of inches from the top and slip it inside your drum...that way your lid will fit. A few folks have done this mod with great results. Search around for pics of Swamprb's mod...
Hmm this looks like a great solution, I know someone with cutting torch.

Of course I have now bent the Kettle lid almost straigh out, but nothing a rubber mallet won't cure.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:44 PM   #2076
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Fire ring size questions.......Mine is 12" dia. 6"high, made of fairly open expand metal. I'm having issues with ash choking. Do you guys think I need big dia. basket to spread things out more? Oh,I'm using Kingsford charcoal.
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Old 12-06-2008, 05:16 AM   #2077
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Fire ring size questions.......Mine is 12" dia. 6"high, made of fairly open expand metal. I'm having issues with ash choking. Do you guys think I need big dia. basket to spread things out more? Oh,I'm using Kingsford charcoal.
The size sounds fine but you could go bigger if you wanted to, just remember not to over fill it and go with the menion method when starting it. You wil need to shake the drum every now and then to get the extra ash to fall away.
A small basket can cause you problems when cooking larger butts etc as the grease may drip on the coals and extinguish them.

Do you have any pictures or your basket both empty and full as though you would use it for a cook?
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:00 AM   #2079
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Fire ring size questions.......Mine is 12" dia. 6"high, made of fairly open expand metal. I'm having issues with ash choking. Do you guys think I need big dia. basket to spread things out more? Oh,I'm using Kingsford charcoal.
just a thought!! is the floor of your basket a couple inches off the floor of the drum??
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A small basket can cause you problems when cooking larger butts etc as the grease may drip on the coals and extinguish them.
Yeah, Thats what I'm worried about. I think I'm going to whip up a larger basket so I don't come short on long cooks. It was my 1st test fire so I loaded up, which added to the issue.

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just a thought!! is the floor of your basket a couple inches off the floor of the drum??
I'm about 3" off the bottom.
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some kinda heat shield might help. an old colander or flower pot etc.
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Yeah, Thats what I'm worried about. I think I'm going to whip up a larger basket so I don't come short on long cooks. It was my 1st test fire so I loaded up, which added to the issue.



I'm about 3" off the bottom.

I now use a rather large basket made from stainless and bolts for legs.

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Old 12-06-2008, 08:35 PM   #2083
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I was wondering...

I have heard it mentioned on here before, and I was thinking of building one like this, and that is making your UDS have a large pan in the bottom to catch drippings, and maybe even act as a heat sink, eseentially making your UDS a 22.5" WSM. With this configuration, you could probably have 3 racks. How sexy would that be?

Just curious if anyone has tried it. I want to build a regular UDS, and then one of these like a WSM to see if it would work. I have sized the large charcoal pans at Ace Hardware and think they are a good match for the 22.5" drums. What say you guys? You're the UDS experts and have seen it all really.

I really will build these someday. Those who know me know that sometimes it takes a while for me to find the time to finally do some of the things on my wish list. So I'm serious about this, but don't expect me posting pics of my build this weekend ya know!
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:42 PM   #2084
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Already done it...Threee racks, works great...
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But does that three-racker have a drip-pan/heat-sink or do the drippings fall into the coals witht he required distance between coals and lowest rack?
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