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Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, equipment and outdoor cookin' . ** Other cooking techniques are welcomed for when your cookin' in the kitchen. Post your hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures, but stay on topic and watch for that hijacking. |
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03-17-2016, 11:24 AM | #16 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Open only to add wood.
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03-17-2016, 12:03 PM | #17 |
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03-17-2016, 12:28 PM | #18 |
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I think the fire starving comments seem to be the ticket. Two full chimneys seems like a lot. On my Lang, I use a handful of lump. Probably 2 or 3 cups worth. Light that with a torch in one spot. Top that with one piece of kindling cut in half. Then the normal splits.
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03-17-2016, 12:53 PM | #19 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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01-01-2017, 01:09 AM | #20 |
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I ran across this thread a few months ago when I got my Loaded Wichita, and now I am familiar with its shortcomings. Check out this discussion which highlights the design flaws that prevent the Yoder Wichita from being a great smoker: http://community.yodersmokers.com/vi...07074be371fb8d
The major issue I found was that the upper vent is too high on the firebox to prevent the heated air from flowing outward, which reduces the intake area enough to starve the fire of oxygen. I have been cooking with a makeshift door cover with a larger vent at the bottom of it, and I never have issues any more - I just throw a log on the fire and walk away until it's ready for another log. If you notice here, my makeshift cover is screwed on, which means I have to cook "with the door closed" all the time - proof that Yoder has a design issue here. Last edited by slamkeys; 07-09-2017 at 10:00 PM.. Reason: Fix broken image links |
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01-01-2017, 06:17 AM | #21 |
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Seems like the firebox door could use some re designing. Doesn't make sense To not have more of an opening under the fire grate
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01-01-2017, 06:36 AM | #22 |
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With coal only you can run with the door closed, but with splits you need door open without modifying the smoker. Definitely needs a redesign for better drafting. With a couple of splits my standard setting is door vents open 100% with the door itself open 2 inches.
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01-01-2017, 06:42 AM | #23 | |
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01-01-2017, 11:24 AM | #24 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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I prefer air intakes below fire grate. Slide intakes are great for this if door is wide enough......
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01-01-2017, 11:59 AM | #25 |
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Interesting post about vent in door location. Hmmm
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01-01-2017, 02:27 PM | #26 |
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01-01-2017, 03:01 PM | #27 |
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Apparently the Yoders don't draft as well with the heat management Plate
the Shirley's draft very well
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01-01-2017, 04:39 PM | #28 |
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My contention is that horizontal smokers are the most difficult to get flowing because you're trying to move air mostly sideways. A vertical smoker is simple because the heated air moves straight up and out the top.
When building a horizontal smoker, you still have to consider that flow is generated by rising heated air, which will flow up and towards the path of least resistance. With that in mind, it's easy to see how the Yoder's factory design seems to ignore the need for an upward path of the heated air. Joe Phillips at Yoder told me his firebox is mounted 1" above the center line of the cooker body. I commented that I thought they had done this as a trade-off to offer a more comfortable height for cooking directly over the fire using the included cooking grid, but someone over there should have known better because the top of the firebox is now far above the low point of the cooking chamber. The heated air has to move downward in order to get past the heat management plate, and the upper vent is also higher than the low point of the heat management plate, which makes the vent the path of least resistance. This is not rocket science. I've been doing the best I can to overcome the design flaws on the current Wichita with vent mods, but the only good fix would be moving the firebox down where it should be. I'm expecting to see Yoder make some changes based on the negative feedback they've been getting, but we'll see. flow-fix-proposal.jpg Looking into the cooker from here it's painfully obvious why it has flow issues: the heated air literally has to fight past a wall of steel blocking it from going into the cooker, whereas the upper vent hole offers an easy path out of the firebox, which is not good. P1110776.jpg Last edited by slamkeys; 07-06-2017 at 10:21 PM.. Reason: Fix broken image links |
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01-01-2017, 04:47 PM | #29 | |
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01-01-2017, 06:29 PM | #30 |
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The firebox sits too high.
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