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Catering, Vending and Cooking For The Masses. this forum is OnTopic. A resource to help with catering, vending and just cooking for large parties. Topics to include Getting Started, Ethics, Marketing, Catering resources, Formulas and recipes for cooking for large groups. |
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07-13-2013, 07:57 AM | #16 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 10-16-08
Location: Virginia
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Like I said I am small time, my trailer is only 7x16ft I have vended at what I believe is our full output capacity meaning we were putting food out the door as fast as we could and we only grossed $2400 for an event from 11am to 4pm. The most I have ever grossed for a 3 day event is $5000.
But to answer your question if I did an event and grossed $8000 and the next years they wanted $500-$600 yes I would pay it but if they wanted 30% no I would not. The only way I could pay the 30% is to jack the price and I am not one to charge $8 for a sammie or $4 for a bottle of water like many have to do at these events. But there again I do not vend festivals much, only 3 to 4 per year and all are local. |
07-14-2013, 12:17 AM | #17 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 11-15-08
Location: Lake View, New York
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Never do an event wanting above 20% in my opinion, but it is a 2 way street..but I look more to do private parties as I rather make the 500 and have them take the left overs vrs me speculating on a big payday then having to refrigerate the left overs..also I change my pricing to reflect the area, what the event will support
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07-14-2013, 07:15 PM | #18 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 07-04-13
Location: Chatsworth, GA
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OK, I did my little "block party" Saturday. I cooked 16 racks of baby backs, 50 1/4 chickens, and two 14# briskets. I happy to report that I sold completely out of everything. I did brisket and rib plates for $10, and chicken plates for $8. Plates included chips, beans, and a drink. I also sold brisket sandwiches for $4. I made a little money but definitely not worth all the work. There were only about 600-700 people at the whole festival. Good experience though. I'm going to do a couple more small ones until I get my routine somewhat down pat. Thanks for all the comments. Keep em coming. I'll soak up as much as I can. At least until I get rich or go broke:)
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07-14-2013, 08:45 PM | #19 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 04-18-13
Location: MD
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How many other vendors were there and how close to closing did you sell out?
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07-14-2013, 11:32 PM | #20 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 06-25-11
Location: Mishawaka, IN
Name/Nickname : Jeremy
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That's the key right there. And this is what so many people miss, especially early on. Everyone wants to cover food costs, and other direct and indirect costs, but paying for your time is often an oversight.
Think about it. Say you made 150 bucks, net of all direct costs, at the end of the day. What's that really worth if all the advance prep time, shopping time, travel time, cooking time, cleaning time, packing up time, took 15 hours in total? Is busting your ass for 10 bucks an hour worth it? If you made even less, or spent even more time on the gig, is doing all of that for practically minimum wage worth it? The answer is obviously different for everyone, but you need to factor in the idea of paying yourself as well rather than just relying on any cash in the till at the end of the event is good enough. Even small gigs. Is it worth it to bust your butt for an entire Saturday just to make 50 bucks instead of spending the afternoon fishing, golfing, or taking your kids to the zoo? Part of your pricing structure should include what you want to pay yourself for your time. Your time isn't worthless, and even though it's a ton of fun to cook BBQ and feed people who end up with smiles on their faces after eating your food, it isn't a charity event. You need to make sure you're making enough money to pay for your sacrifice of time so that you can continue to enjoy it and not just get stuck in a rut of doing it for the sake of doing it. Just my very honest two cents. |
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07-15-2013, 09:21 AM | #21 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 06-28-13
Location: Ciudad de Panama, Rep. de Panama
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I have been self employed all of my life and the part about PAYING YOURSELF is very important. If you are not doing it for the money then why waste your time.
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07-16-2013, 07:05 PM | #22 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 07-04-13
Location: Chatsworth, GA
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There were several vendors there. Most selling roasted corn, cotton candy, and other snack food. There was one other vendor selling hamburgers, hot dogs, grilled cheese, and pork sandwiches. The event started at 11. I sold my first sandwich at 11:30. I sold out at 6:10 and the event was scheduled to be over at 9 pm.
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07-16-2013, 07:11 PM | #23 | |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 07-04-13
Location: Chatsworth, GA
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You're exactly right. I am trying to do it for the money and my time away from my family is worth more than small bucks for cooking bbq. I do enjoy it, but for me, if I cant make at least a grand for a one day event, I'm out. Two day events would have to be significantly more. I think it can be done. I just have to learn how to pick the right events. I'm going to assume that formula is big crowds with minimal vendors. Thanks for your .02 cents. |
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07-16-2013, 07:18 PM | #24 | |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 07-04-13
Location: Chatsworth, GA
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07-16-2013, 09:52 PM | #25 | |
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Join Date: 02-01-10
Location: NYC & WPB FL
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Hope it all works out for you!!
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07-22-2013, 03:11 PM | #26 | |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 07-04-13
Location: Chatsworth, GA
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I will definitely check out your site. I just don't know if I'm ready for the web thing yet. I gotta figure out what I'm doing first. I've only done 2 small festivals and I'm already getting more requests than I ever expected. Not many people around here have had competition style BBQ. It's just all commodity bbq at the local restaraunts. Evidently word is getting around that I'm serving great food. Which is good, but I need to do some more studying on what is the best way for me to make money doing this. Maybe I need a catering and vending consultant. Is there such a thing. I've agreed to do 2 catering jobs already (meat only). But people are already asking about catering more parties and reunions. Just cooking the meat ain't gonna fly for everybody. The people who are telling me to jump in with both feet have no idea what it takes to put great bbq on the table. And I'm not gonna do it for a $3-400 profit. Anyway, thanks again for the advice. Gonna go finish my cost analysis and see where I am. |
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08-10-2013, 01:10 PM | #27 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 06-15-12
Location: Denham Springs, Louisiana
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You guys have great insight and I am taking it all in as I am doing a very small but first event this evening
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08-10-2013, 08:40 PM | #28 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 01-28-12
Location: Hagerstown, MD
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Let us know how that goes!
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08-13-2013, 02:19 PM | #29 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 07-07-12
Location: Gray, GA
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If you don't mind, what kind of smoker do you use? I imagine you have to do all the cooking/prepping on site so I'm kinda just looking for what kind of cooker capacity and setup you might have. I'm also from GA (middle) and have been wanting to get into a couple of the small festivals around the house here.
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08-16-2013, 10:14 PM | #30 |
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Join Date: 01-01-11
Location: Was Gretna NE now Lincoln NE
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Maybe $8,000 single day events are readily available in NY. In the midwest they are rare for most venders. We shoot more for a couple grand gross and hope we clear $500 to $750. Based on these numbers $200 is plenty for a promoter. We are there to supplement their event not to headline it.
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