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01-15-2019, 06:17 AM | #1 |
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Wire welding a drum
I have access now to a good 220 Miller wire welder and I may want to weld on a drum. How easy is it to weld a 55 gallon drum without warping and curling the steel? Thanks
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01-15-2019, 08:13 AM | #2 |
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You'll need to turn the machine down and skip weld it, but it works fine.
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01-15-2019, 08:16 AM | #3 |
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Do you have 220v or 440v wired to the unit as they can be wired for either. You want 440 if ever switching over to mig welding aluminum.
Your main problem is getting the current setting and wire speed low enough to not burn thru the steel. If you are not used to welding with a 220 mig. Even the 120v units are set around 50% power and 40% wire speed to weld a cast iron fitting on a drum. Welding just steel, 30 -40% power and 30% wire speed on a 120V Depending on the mig you have access too. You might not be able to dial the power/speed down low enough. |
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01-15-2019, 08:30 AM | #4 | |
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01-15-2019, 08:36 AM | #5 |
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Was that welding with gas or flux where you had that problem.
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01-15-2019, 08:41 AM | #6 |
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01-15-2019, 09:18 AM | #7 |
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That was your problem.
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01-15-2019, 09:27 AM | #8 |
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01-15-2019, 10:07 AM | #10 |
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I've done a lot of welding on drums to make my smokers. Haven't seen much warpage except when welding exhaust vents on drum lids, hard to keep them from distorting if you weld on them. I've used 220 VAC and 120 VAC machines. Have welded drums withe Millermatic and Lincol 210's and 140's
Mig weld with gas Sand and clean areas to be welded thoroughly Good ground .025 - .030 wire Spot - stitch weld - kind of like welding in a patch panel on a car body Overall, there isn't really anything that is so large that you'll warp your drum. I've welded in a few fire box access doors in my day and they wouldn't warp the drum, had some burn throughs though. Believe it or not, I've used heat resistant RTV and heat resistant JB Weld to fill in between the areas where I didn't completely fill in the seam with weld. |
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01-15-2019, 10:17 AM | #11 | |
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01-15-2019, 10:34 AM | #12 | |
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Once you get a bead started, you'll burn through the drum. I built my first fire door access using spot welds until the entire perimeter of the door frame was welded in. No warpage, but I didn't do a continuous bead. For small pieces that I weld to the drum, yes, small beads. Large pieces, spot weld and ffill with RTV or JB Weld. In some cases, bolts or screws are options. |
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01-15-2019, 10:37 AM | #13 | |
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01-15-2019, 12:49 PM | #14 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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My cheap flux core wire welder burns holes in drums. I can do small tacks but can’t run a bead - plus I don’t know how to weld............
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01-15-2019, 02:31 PM | #15 |
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No way you can run a bead. You will blow right through it. You're going to have to do tac-tac-tac method and skip around.
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