Question for those who know barrels

swinn · 01-08-2013, 09:01 AM

I may have found a few barrels to use for my UDS but I want to make sure it does not have a liner in it before I buy it.
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mat/3528126541.html
can any of you tell from the pics if it has one?

Thanks ya'll

Bludawg · 01-08-2013, 09:09 AM

You want this one:

FOOD GRADE 55 gal STEEL SMOKER BARRELS
- open-head with removable Lid and Retaining Snap-lock Ring -- ... asking $35
- heavier guage steel barrel in Excellent Condition -- Clean Inside and Out -- NO SMELL

Q Junkie · 01-08-2013, 09:14 AM

I agree with Bludawg but there is probably a liner that will need to be removed.
I had mine sand blasted by a friend. Wire wheel works with some elbow grease.

ModelMaker · 01-08-2013, 09:17 AM

I don't think "food grade" gaurantees no liner. Sometimes the liner is what makes it "food grade".
Best bet is to contact the poster and ask for a "raw" barrel.
Ed

Enkidu · 01-08-2013, 09:29 AM

The fact that they have barrels called "smoker barrels' probably means they are unlined. To be sure, just call them and ask.

Hover your mouse over the second to last pic and you will see the one I am referring to.

Callahan-que · 01-08-2013, 09:35 AM

It doesn't have to be FOOD GRADE. If it is FOOD GRADE then it will most likely have the liner.

Q Junkie · 01-08-2013, 09:43 AM

Its really the heavier gauge steel that you want. Usually the DOT rated drums are a good choice. Sometimes there just is no escaping work unless you pay someone to remove the liner or buy it that way.
My opinion is to make sure it is of the heavier gauge. Liner or no liner is secondary.

SirPorkaLot · 01-08-2013, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J'ville Grill

It doesn't have to be FOOD GRADE. If it is FOOD GRADE then it will most likely have the liner.

What ^^^ he said.

Food grade drums for UDS is the biggest myth out there right now.

You DO NOT want food grade drums to build an UDS. Anyone that suggests such is mistaken. (Sorry all, but this has to be straightened out)

What makes a standard steel drum "food grade" is the food safe lining in the drum.

For a UDS you want that liner removed as it is not designed to withstand regular heat of 200+.

If you remove the liner, you now have a standard steel (non food grade) drum.

So just start with a steel drum with no liner and you are way ahead of the game.

Enkidu · 01-08-2013, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enkidu

The fact that they have barrels called "smoker barrels' probably means they are unlined. To be sure, just call them and ask.

Hover your mouse over the second to last pic and you will see the one I am referring to.

FYI, when I called Apex here in Los Angeles, they also have a refurbished drum that they refer to as a smoker barrel (and it is also $35) and they verified that it is unlined and has been sand-blasted. I am guessing that a simple call to the drum company in KC will verify whether or not their smoker barrel is similarly unlined.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke · 01-08-2013, 10:19 AM

The open top one they show open looks to me that it has a tan liner in it. Easier to get rid of than the red ones, but still a bit of a pia.

swamprb · 01-08-2013, 10:49 AM

I took a magnifying glass to the pics of the smoker barrels and IMO they appear to be lined.
You will never know unless you see for yourself.

Around here a new or "reconditioned" unlined open 55 gallon drum with lid and lock band run $35-50.

Locally, Stock Pot Soups will usually give away food grade drums, and I've seen both open and closed ones that were lined and unlined, some contained Olive or Canola oils, or lined open drums that held tomato puree in bladders.
At our shop, bearing grease comes packed in a bladder in lined open drums, and a local paint distributor routinely gives away smooth side open unlined drums packed with paint pigments in bladders.

razrbakcrzy · 01-08-2013, 11:17 AM

Lined --- tan liner ----!

swinn · 01-08-2013, 12:15 PM

I kind of thought the tan coloring indicated a liner. Any KC Que'ers have a line on barrels. I was hoping to avoid an hour to an hour and a half drive to get one but so far that is what I am finding.

MidnightStokersBBQ · 01-08-2013, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swinn

I kind of thought the tan coloring indicated a liner. Any KC Que'ers have a line on barrels. I was hoping to avoid an hour to an hour and a half drive to get one but so far that is what I am finding.

I would be interested as well....

El Ropo · 01-08-2013, 06:12 PM

Also keep in mind that many places like this don't know what a liner is and can't give you the correct answer even if they are staring right at the drum in question. Been quite a few reports here about people being told that a drum was unlined only to find out when looking at it in person that is indeed lined.

01-08-2013, 09:01 AM	#1
swinn Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 12-07-09 Location: Kansas City, Mo.	Question for those who know barrels I may have found a few barrels to use for my UDS but I want to make sure it does not have a liner in it before I buy it. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mat/3528126541.html can any of you tell from the pics if it has one? Thanks ya'll __________________ KC CHIEFS UDS! New Braunfels Bandera: 22.5 inch RED Weber Kettle: Sunbeam 340 Gasser

01-08-2013, 09:09 AM	#2
Bludawg somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-04-09 Location: Jonesboro,Tx	You want this one: FOOD GRADE 55 gal STEEL SMOKER BARRELS - open-head with removable Lid and Retaining Snap-lock Ring -- ... asking $35 - heavier guage steel barrel in Excellent Condition -- Clean Inside and Out -- NO SMELL __________________ I'm a Proxy Vegetarian> Cows eat grass & I eat cows.

01-08-2013, 09:17 AM	#4
ModelMaker Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-21-06 Location: Lake Ponderosa-Montezuma, IA	I don't think "food grade" gaurantees no liner. Sometimes the liner is what makes it "food grade". Best bet is to contact the poster and ask for a "raw" barrel. Ed __________________ Designer of a custom drum smoker Customized Aussie gas passer Turkey fryer Extremely seasoned hand hammered Wok Pit Boss-HART BURN Competition BBQ Team KCBS certified judge And Your not the boss of me either!!

01-08-2013, 09:29 AM	#5
Enkidu Take a breath! Join Date: 06-12-12 Location: Los Angeles	The fact that they have barrels called "smoker barrels' probably means they are unlined. To be sure, just call them and ask. Hover your mouse over the second to last pic and you will see the one I am referring to. __________________ 22" OTG; 22" Performer; mini-WSM; Brinkmann gasser; UDS (on the way); Maverick ET-732

01-08-2013, 09:35 AM	#6
Callahan-que Babbling Farker Join Date: 11-18-10 Location: Callahan Fl Name/Nickname : Rick	It doesn't have to be FOOD GRADE. If it is FOOD GRADE then it will most likely have the liner. __________________ Rick

01-08-2013, 09:14 AM	#3
Q Junkie is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-07-12 Location: San Marcos, CA	I agree with Bludawg but there is probably a liner that will need to be removed. I had mine sand blasted by a friend. Wire wheel works with some elbow grease.

01-08-2013, 09:43 AM	#7
Q Junkie is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-07-12 Location: San Marcos, CA	Its really the heavier gauge steel that you want. Usually the DOT rated drums are a good choice. Sometimes there just is no escaping work unless you pay someone to remove the liner or buy it that way. My opinion is to make sure it is of the heavier gauge. Liner or no liner is secondary.

01-08-2013, 10:19 AM	#10
HeSmellsLikeSmoke somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 04-02-07 Location: Warren, Vermont	The open top one they show open looks to me that it has a tan liner in it. Easier to get rid of than the red ones, but still a bit of a pia. __________________ Jim - Another transplanted Texan Former KCBS CBJ Large and Medium Big Green Eggs , Black 18.5" WSM, Blue Weber Performer - Stainless, Green Weber OTG Kettle , Brinkmann SnP Pro, and a Stainless UDS. One retired Portable Kitchen grill. Red Thermapen, Maverick ET-732, EdgePro Apex Sharpener. Avatar is the original 1951 Weber Kettle

01-08-2013, 10:49 AM	#11
swamprb somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-27-06 Location: Bothell WA	I took a magnifying glass to the pics of the smoker barrels and IMO they appear to be lined. You will never know unless you see for yourself. Around here a new or "reconditioned" unlined open 55 gallon drum with lid and lock band run $35-50. Locally, Stock Pot Soups will usually give away food grade drums, and I've seen both open and closed ones that were lined and unlined, some contained Olive or Canola oils, or lined open drums that held tomato puree in bladders. At our shop, bearing grease comes packed in a bladder in lined open drums, and a local paint distributor routinely gives away smooth side open unlined drums packed with paint pigments in bladders. __________________ Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year BGE's/WSM's/Pellet Pro WSM/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Cookshack 008/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com

01-08-2013, 11:17 AM	#12
razrbakcrzy is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 09-13-11 Location: Fort Smith, Ar.	Lined --- tan liner ----! __________________ [SIZE=2][B]Jim Boston[/B][/SIZE] [B][COLOR=black]Current Smoker[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=red]"The most reliable, easiest to make at home, Smoker [B]"The UDS"[/B] W/ an Auber temp. Controller w/ 20CFM Blower.[/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][B]Future Smoker [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]$5438.25 Total BYC Smoker!![/FONT] [SIZE=2]Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. [/SIZE] [SIZE=1]Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985 [/SIZE]

01-08-2013, 12:15 PM	#13
swinn Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 12-07-09 Location: Kansas City, Mo.	I kind of thought the tan coloring indicated a liner. Any KC Que'ers have a line on barrels. I was hoping to avoid an hour to an hour and a half drive to get one but so far that is what I am finding. __________________ KC CHIEFS UDS! New Braunfels Bandera: 22.5 inch RED Weber Kettle: Sunbeam 340 Gasser

01-08-2013, 06:12 PM	#15
El Ropo Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-06-10 Location: Austin, TX Name/Nickname : Roger	Also keep in mind that many places like this don't know what a liner is and can't give you the correct answer even if they are staring right at the drum in question. Been quite a few reports here about people being told that a drum was unlined only to find out when looking at it in person that is indeed lined. __________________ 22.5" WSM nicknamed Fuel Hog! Rescued 22.5" OTS. 18.5" OTS. SJS Mini-WSM. Building UDS ver 2.0. HEB briqs (rebranded Royal Oak). Pecan/Hickory/Cherry/Apple/Peach woods. 2016 Fuji Absolute 2.0 LE (for burning off all the great BBQ)