Pellet Pooper Power

BBQchef33 · 04-05-2009, 12:04 AM

Did I read somewhere thats its unsafe to run the FE100 off a generator(Honda 3000)..

The Honda runs my computer, so I cant see it give the FE a problem... its supposed to be clean power...

or is it just safer to run off a powerpack and inverter?

1_T_Scot · 04-05-2009, 06:32 AM

Cheap generators don't have a good regulator in them to give a 60 hz sine wave and the govenor in them sometimes doesn't hold a steady speed and the output varies.

Computer (Esp laptop) power supplies are pretty flexable when it comes to power. They conver it to DC for the computer anyway. So I'm not sure I would use that as an indicator of the quality of your generator.

I would think the Honda is probably pretty good quality. If you have access to an O-scope you could check the outoput (voltage and HZ). You could also check it with a Multi meter but you wouldn't be able to see the quality of the sine wave. Remember to vary the load when you are checking it.

So the company probably makes a blanket statement since they cannot predict the quality of generator.

Ron_L · 04-05-2009, 08:09 AM

I'm pretty sure that Scottie ran his FECs off of his Honda generator for a couple of years (I think he just upgraded to a bigger model). I think he's on the road but he'll probably check in.

n-2-que · 04-05-2009, 08:10 AM

I would talk with cookshack, i believe the hona U1000 to 3000 are just fine, I personally run my FEC100 at comps from a inverter and marine battery. but was going to buy either the 2000 or 3000 Honda myself

HoDeDo · 04-05-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQchef33

Did I read somewhere thats its unsafe to run the FE100 off a generator(Honda 3000)..

The Honda runs my computer, so I cant see it give the FE a problem... its supposed to be clean power...

or is it just safer to run off a powerpack and inverter?

Pooh, you nailed it -- It isn't ok to run it off of a worksite generator... too much "dirty" / surgy power. But any generator that has a digital inverter (or sinewave inverter as some named) should be fine to run it on.

I can tell you there are a bunch of folks however, that use a marine battery with an inverter... and hook one of those conditioning chargers to it, off of thier genset.

You should be fine with your honda. Mine ran fine off the Kipor. Todd has run both his of the Kipor with no probs.

BigBarry · 04-05-2009, 09:53 AM

What about a small/cheap UPS in the middle?

BBQchef33 · 04-07-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBarry

What about a small/cheap UPS in the middle?

An active UPS would be needed(those condition the power thru the battery before converting to AC) the small cheap ones aren't active and have a staright thru AC feed until the battery is kicked on thru voltage stop or drop.

Would a car booster pack with an inverter run one overnight or does it need deepcycle? The ar elisted as drawing 5 amps, whichs seems like alot for what its doing.

DeanC · 04-07-2009, 10:31 AM

I bought Yamaha clean generator when I purchased my FEC. It runs the laptop but gives the cooker fits. I switched to a deep cycle marine battery with a sine inverter last year and it works perfect. Cookshack gave me several controllers to try to see if that was the issue but they all did the same thing. It is not an IQ by the way, just the old Traeger controller.

Scottie · 04-07-2009, 10:52 AM

I've had my Honda 3000 for 3 seasons and it ran almost every contest and it worked like a charm for my FE and my FEC... I bought the new 6500 and have kept my 3000 as a back-up, that is how much I think of it...

roastntoast · 04-07-2009, 11:21 AM

You can get an Inverter generator . It coverts the power to 12 volts then through a built in inverter it converts it back to 120 v , so you can run a computer or anything that is sensative to hydro fluctuations.

Jules

BobBrisket · 04-07-2009, 11:51 AM

Generators and Pellet Poopers.........aint that cheating? (

Chit stirrer mod) I say go with coal and sticks and problem solved. (Stirs the pot some more)

I have no feedback on generators or poopers. Just wanted to stir the pot. However, I now know what to look for in a generator when I get one. I figured they were all the same, guess not.
Now I know what to look for in a pooper too.........if I ever get one!

BBQchef33 · 04-07-2009, 12:32 PM

definately have to be aware of what generator your getting for what.

Worksite gens are great for circular saws, but will kill a refrigerator, wear out andAir conditioner and wreck havoc on electronics. The hondas are inverted sine wave generators that clean up the power by converting the AC power produced by the alternator to DC, smoothing it out thru some funky microprocessor and then inverting it back to AC. It claims to produce clean stable power.

not to mention they be REAL quiet. :)

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BobBrisket · 04-07-2009, 02:00 PM

Now I know why the Honda ones cost such a pretty penny.

jbrink01 · 04-07-2009, 02:49 PM

I run my FEC 500 on a Honda 3000. There is no other generator than Honda for me, ever.

I change the oil with Mobile 1, and so far it just purrs along. We ran a Honda trash pump for 4 months straight in '93 during the flood. Put gas in it and stopped it once a week to check and add oil if needed. We still have it and it still works!

04-05-2009, 12:04 AM	#1
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	Pellet Pooper Power Did I read somewhere thats its unsafe to run the FE100 off a generator(Honda 3000).. The Honda runs my computer, so I cant see it give the FE a problem... its supposed to be clean power... or is it just safer to run off a powerpack and inverter? __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

04-05-2009, 06:32 AM	#2
1_T_Scot is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 06-03-08 Location: Pontiac Illinois	Cheap generators don't have a good regulator in them to give a 60 hz sine wave and the govenor in them sometimes doesn't hold a steady speed and the output varies. Computer (Esp laptop) power supplies are pretty flexable when it comes to power. They conver it to DC for the computer anyway. So I'm not sure I would use that as an indicator of the quality of your generator. I would think the Honda is probably pretty good quality. If you have access to an O-scope you could check the outoput (voltage and HZ). You could also check it with a Multi meter but you wouldn't be able to see the quality of the sine wave. Remember to vary the load when you are checking it. So the company probably makes a blanket statement since they cannot predict the quality of generator. __________________ Certified "MOINK" ball maker. Supporting Disabled Veterans. Link Removed. Diveheart .org Large Big Green Egg - Fathers Day 2009

04-05-2009, 08:09 AM	#3
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Wandering, but not lost Name/Nickname : Captain Ron	I'm pretty sure that Scottie ran his FECs off of his Honda generator for a couple of years (I think he just upgraded to a bigger model). I think he's on the road but he'll probably check in. __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Naked Fatties Rock! PKGo X 2/PK360/Weber Q1000/Blackstone Camping Griddle/Pit Boss Pro Series 850

04-05-2009, 08:10 AM	#4
n-2-que is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 11-08-06 Location: Iowa City, IA	I would talk with cookshack, i believe the hona U1000 to 3000 are just fine, I personally run my FEC100 at comps from a inverter and marine battery. but was going to buy either the 2000 or 3000 Honda myself __________________ Cook Brisket Bill - Cook - KCBS Judge Dianne- Go Getter - KCBS Judge Cooker CookShack- Fec100 BGE - Extra Large with Table Weber- 22 inch Kettle ______________ www.n2que.com

04-05-2009, 09:53 AM	#6
BigBarry is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-06-06 Location: West Islip, NY	What about a small/cheap UPS in the middle? __________________ Greg Head Cook - Team BigBarryQ KCBS Member Webers: Smokey Mountains (2 18.5" and a 22.5") - Performer 22" Silver - Go AnyWhere Charcoal - Smokey Joe Platinum - Craigslist Silver Gasser BBQ - Bring Beer Quick! In the Land of the Pig, the Butcher is King!

04-07-2009, 10:31 AM	#8
DeanC Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 07-23-05 Location: Kansas City, Missouri	I bought Yamaha clean generator when I purchased my FEC. It runs the laptop but gives the cooker fits. I switched to a deep cycle marine battery with a sine inverter last year and it works perfect. Cookshack gave me several controllers to try to see if that was the issue but they all did the same thing. It is not an IQ by the way, just the old Traeger controller. __________________ FEC 100--Sold and sorely missed. Snail Drum 3 WSM's 2 Weber Kettles Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar---Mark Twain www.odmp.org

04-07-2009, 10:52 AM	#9
Scottie Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-03-06 Location: Chi-Town	I've had my Honda 3000 for 3 seasons and it ran almost every contest and it worked like a charm for my FE and my FEC... I bought the new 6500 and have kept my 3000 as a back-up, that is how much I think of it... __________________ cancersuckschicago.com FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA BBQ TOUR Red Jambo one off FE 100 FEC 100 WSM Homer Simpson 22 " Weber Kettle Red 18 1/2" Weber Kettle Black 26 3/4" Weber Kettle

04-07-2009, 11:21 AM	#10
roastntoast On the road to being a farker Join Date: 10-11-07 Location: Ontario	You can get an Inverter generator . It coverts the power to 12 volts then through a built in inverter it converts it back to 120 v , so you can run a computer or anything that is sensative to hydro fluctuations. Jules

04-07-2009, 11:51 AM	#11
BobBrisket Moderator Join Date: 12-11-07 Location: El Paso, TX Name/Nickname : Bob	Generators and Pellet Poopers.........aint that cheating? ( Chit stirrer mod) I say go with coal and sticks and problem solved. (Stirs the pot some more) I have no feedback on generators or poopers. Just wanted to stir the pot. However, I now know what to look for in a generator when I get one. I figured they were all the same, guess not. Now I know what to look for in a pooper too.........if I ever get one! __________________ PBC-Courtesy of Poobah, 22.5 Weber Kettles-A, K, DR Stamped, 18.5 Weber Bar-B-Kettle Black and Red, Weber 18.5 Smokey Joe Platinum, Weber Genesis Silver, Lil' Chief Smoker, Discada Set Up,OKJ Highland Offset. BobBrisket Jr.-MUDS, WSJ Silver My BEST Compliment....."You're a good cooker, Dad!"--My Son :) Miss You, Marty and Bull! RIP

04-07-2009, 12:32 PM	#12
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	definately have to be aware of what generator your getting for what. Worksite gens are great for circular saws, but will kill a refrigerator, wear out andAir conditioner and wreck havoc on electronics. The hondas are inverted sine wave generators that clean up the power by converting the AC power produced by the alternator to DC, smoothing it out thru some funky microprocessor and then inverting it back to AC. It claims to produce clean stable power. not to mention they be REAL quiet. :) . __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

04-07-2009, 02:00 PM	#13
BobBrisket Moderator Join Date: 12-11-07 Location: El Paso, TX Name/Nickname : Bob	Now I know why the Honda ones cost such a pretty penny. __________________ PBC-Courtesy of Poobah, 22.5 Weber Kettles-A, K, DR Stamped, 18.5 Weber Bar-B-Kettle Black and Red, Weber 18.5 Smokey Joe Platinum, Weber Genesis Silver, Lil' Chief Smoker, Discada Set Up,OKJ Highland Offset. BobBrisket Jr.-MUDS, WSJ Silver My BEST Compliment....."You're a good cooker, Dad!"--My Son :) Miss You, Marty and Bull! RIP

04-07-2009, 02:49 PM	#14
jbrink01 is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-17-06 Location: Washington, Missouri	I run my FEC 500 on a Honda 3000. There is no other generator than Honda for me, ever. I change the oil with Mobile 1, and so far it just purrs along. We ran a Honda trash pump for 4 months straight in '93 during the flood. Put gas in it and stopped it once a week to check and add oil if needed. We still have it and it still works! __________________ [CENTER][B][/B] [/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I][B]KCBS #13207[/B][/I][/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I]2013 Insane Can Posse [/I][I]Tour [/I][/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][I]Sponsored By: [/I][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I]Gateway BBQ Store[/I][/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I]Blues Hog BBQ Company[/I][/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][B][I]Plowboys BBQ Company[/I][/B][/CENTER]