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Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind. |
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08-23-2019, 11:01 AM | #136 |
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Join Date: 06-20-12
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Exactly where we are now. Moved from a great modified insulated, A/C cargo trailer that provided dual purposes, to a toy hauler. Love being able to really enjoy the added nights or long distance contest. Would now love a porch trailer as I am already tired of setting up but will not give up the creature comforts that makes this adventure somewhat enjoyable for the wife.
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08-23-2019, 11:16 AM | #137 |
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Join Date: 12-31-10
Location: Albert City, Iowa
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There was one year in State Center Iowa we had our pop ups and a little Uhaul trailer I think it was 4 x 6 or so. Anyways bad down pour and severe weather hit. My wife was crunched up in this trailer making our boxes. Still pictures floating around on that one.
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08-23-2019, 11:18 AM | #138 | |
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Have to agree with the above. This is a Professional circuit. Have to pay to play here and it's up to the team to decide if that's worth it. Unfortunately, for us and a lot of other teams the time and cost it's going to take to finally be competitive outweighs the reward of winning. It stinks. Competition is really fun. But, they shouldn't be surprised when contests can barely get 20 teams with the cost. This year alone in the Facebook groups I've seen multiple contests cancelled here in the Northeast or the organizers begging for teams. In regards to the "One Bite BBQ." I can't fault KCBS and the top teams for creating/wanting the highest level of professional competition and creating the best bite possible as that's how it should be. Professional athletes aren't playing with cheap equipment or eating Kraft Mac N' Cheese every day. Neither should top KCBS teams use Home Depot smokers and Select briskets. But, I agree with you that the one bite served shouldn't have to have taken steroids. Putting a cap on meat quality will never happen. If someone wants to pay for it they should be able to. But, maybe they can put restrictions on the use of "enhancers" and get back to serving good Ol' Fashioned BBQ. However, i don't see that happening anytime soon either. It's what sets comp Que apart from backyard.
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08-23-2019, 11:59 AM | #139 | |
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08-23-2019, 12:11 PM | #140 |
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Join Date: 02-24-10
Location: Durham, NC
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We got out of BBQ competitions for a few reasons...
1. Cost, to be competitive it was taking a lot of money 2. Location, I wasn't in the best location and needed to travel a bit to get to comps. 3. Time. I could either use time off to go to comps or do something with family 4. New Born -- at the time we just had our son. I wanted to spend time with him. A BBQ comp is the place for a baby to hang out...or a toddler... 5. Priorities. I still love cooking Que. I love hanging around great people. I just shifted to doing get togethers, then I bought a Jeep. The Jeep family is like the BBQ family. No matter where you go they are there!
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08-23-2019, 09:44 PM | #141 | |
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08-23-2019, 09:52 PM | #142 | |
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08-25-2019, 09:12 AM | #143 |
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Join Date: 02-25-17
Location: Killeen, TX
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This thread is interesting and reading it so far it's pretty obvious why KCBS can't make any real changes : people are set in their ways and they don't want any changes. The Pro teams out there already know how to win, so why would they want any changes which would hamper their odds and possibly tilt the scale in the favor of others? Quite a few posters in here came out "guns blazing" against just about any and all changes suggested.
Anyways, I didn't see it suggested in this thread, so I'll place it here as I feel like this could help to open things up for new teams : A while back Harry Soo did a video where they were at an event and there were certified judges who would eat your food in front of you and give you instant feed back. For teams who are just starting out that could be a "game changer" for them. I've done 5 contests and the feedback from judges leaves a lot to be desired. I've gotten a few comment cards and for the most part they lack any real critique. It's tough to spend the kind of money a contest requires when you're doing something wrong, but you've got no real means of knowing what that wrong thing is. I'm just curious if KCBS would think about incorporating these things into some contests to help lure in new teams and allow them to get some feedback before they drop a lot of money on entry fees. It would allow them to test the waters and see if KCBS BBQ is really something they want to compete in. I enjoy going to contests and competing mostly because of the people I've met. I feel if people can get out there and not have to drop so much money, they might get pulled into the community and have a much more positive experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld1A_dPwsw8 Also, kind of a small note, but the KCBS website / Competition search tool is kind of hard to use and not very "information friendly" for newcomers. If you have no idea what's going on and you want to enter your 1st KCBS contest the website doesn't really help much. I see lots of things like "State Championship"...it doesn't really explain what that means and it makes it seem like that's a very prestigious contest which a newcomer might not even be able to attend. Seeing an event say "Master Series" would generally make me think that it's not open to anybody beyond the Pros. There is nothing detailing the difference between a Master Series and Competitor Series competition. Even looking at the FAQ section imagine if you were a newcomer...these don't answer any questions a newcomer would likely have. I only bring this up because I had no clue what I was doing when I first decided to give competition BBQ a shot. I checked out the KCBS.US website and it has very little information which is easily accessible for newcomers. LOTS of discussion in this thread is about newcomers, and I still feel like I'm in that category.
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08-25-2019, 06:52 PM | #144 |
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This event (and these types) is a very fun and useful event for any and all teams. Not only do you get judged by certified judges but also experienced cooks teams. The cooks teams also serve as mentors. Last year, I cooked this event. I learned a lot about some things I was trying. This year, I served as judge and mentor. It felt really good to be able to walk around on Friday night and Saturday morning and talk to people cooking and answer questions and offer advice. It was also nice to ask questions of the cook and offer suggestions back. To me, the best part is when a team turns in something and you give them some honest feedback and later in the year, you hear that team get their name called. That is an awesome feeling. Friends helping friends.
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08-26-2019, 02:46 AM | #145 |
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Harry's events are an excellent teaching / learning venue for both team and judges !
I had the honor of being one of the judges for his first event back on December 14, 2013. Would do one again in a heartbeat !!!
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08-26-2019, 11:11 AM | #146 | |
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Join Date: 07-05-11
Location: Pierre, SD
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I just tell it like it is, competition BBQ has never been cheap so what I said was the truth whether people like it or not. Probably why alot of people go broke doing it. Fail to recognize the reality of what they are doing to their personal finances.
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08-26-2019, 04:45 PM | #147 |
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Join Date: 06-01-11
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About 5 years ago I brought up to some KCBS board members that they needed to be proactive in continuing the growth of competition bbq. One of the things I had always heard from the public at comps or in conversation about doing comps was "I'd love to compete but have no idea how to start". The other big one was mentioned previously about not having a trailer to compete out of.
My idea to KCBS was putting together classes and/or videos showing how to start in competition bbq. Not a tell all class but more of what basic equipment is needed, what the time line of a contest looks like, how judging is done, etc. Maybe show what a set up looked like using just a 10x10 EZ Up. I had talked to a few top comp teams and they were more than willing to help do this. Their response was great idea but this really should be something you do on your own and is not something KCBS would involve itself in. I brought this up to boardmembers the following year (maybe two) and got more or less the same response. I'm not saying this is the answer, but it is definitely frustrating seeing membership/competitions decline and the one group with the most to lose in this sit back and not try to be proactive about it.
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08-27-2019, 06:38 AM | #148 | |
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08-27-2019, 10:09 AM | #149 | |
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Join Date: 02-22-18
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We entered our first comp with almost new Pit Barrels and a Wal Mart Char Griller stick burner. We still compete under EZUps. You don't have to go broke to get into this. Just have to take the plunge. If you decide it isn't for you, at least you tried.
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08-27-2019, 10:35 AM | #150 |
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Join Date: 07-05-11
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Well there was a backyard BBQ contest at the KCBS comp i cooked this weekend. I believe there was a whopping 5 teams in it. Where was everyone that is bitching about not having other options other that master series?
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