Judge and Critique this box - Page 5

timzcardz · 11-03-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OC PIG ASSASSINS

Comparing has a simple definition. In this instance he stated it looked like many other boxes. We are not judging compared to many other boxes. We are also judging the meat, not the other parts of the box. Is it the same color as many other turn ins or are we talking about layout??? What are we comparing to may other boxes? Experienced judge would know not to compare to other boxes.

<LOL> Thanks. I needed that! </LOL>

Jacked UP BBQ · 11-03-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by timzcardz

<LOL> Thanks. I needed that! </LOL>

Anytime!!

BBQchef33 · 11-03-2008, 12:30 PM

Sled only listed 2.. Where were all the other 13's u got? More than 2 had to make it famous.

Jacked UP BBQ · 11-03-2008, 12:34 PM

Sled must be sick???? Not many posts today.

Bentley · 11-03-2008, 01:43 PM

[quote=OC PIG ASSASSINS;772906]Comparing has a simple definition. In this instance he stated it looked like many other boxes. We are not judging compared to many other boxes. We are also judging the meat, not the other parts of the box. quote]

Keep up the good work. As a CBJ judge or ex-CBJ judge like me, I need to be reminded of this stuff...And I am serious and not joking!

Jacked UP BBQ · 11-03-2008, 01:47 PM

Keep up the good work. As a CBJ judge or ex-CBJ judge like me, I need to be reminded of this stuff...And I am serious and not joking![/quote]

Don't quit on us, we needed good judges!!!

ihbobry · 11-03-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OC PIG ASSASSINS

Comparing has a simple definition. In this instance he stated it looked like many other boxes. We are not judging compared to many other boxes. We are also judging the meat, not the other parts of the box. Is it the same color as many other turn ins or are we talking about layout??? What are we comparing to may other boxes? Experienced judge would know not to compare to other boxes.

Your over thinking this in an effort to discount what I said. Your box is un-remarkable. It is like any other box. If your box was special in some way it would not be like any other box. It's average my brother. You can put thoughts and interpitations into my mouth (none of which are true) to make yourself feel better but it's still average. None of that is comparative.

Jacked UP BBQ · 11-03-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ihbobry

Your over thinking this in an effort to discount what I said. Your box is un-remarkable. It is like any other box. If your box was special in some way it would not be like any other box. It's average my brother. You can put thoughts and interpitations into my mouth (none of which are true) to make yourself feel better but it's still average. None of that is comparative.

As long as that makes you feel better, I guess I will go with that. I am here for you brother. Please be more specific when you are judging and looking for something special. What makes a box special in your opinion? I am asking seriously, since you are a judge.

What makes mine average, I can live with average, if I thought it was outstanding I would have never put it up here. Explain to me what is wrong with it. Being serious again.

ihbobry · 11-03-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OC PIG ASSASSINS

As long as that makes you feel better, I guess I will go with that. I am here for you brother. Please be more specific when you are judging and looking for something special. What makes a box special in your opinion? I am asking seriously, since you are a judge.

What makes mine average, I can live with average, if I thought it was outstanding I would have never put it up here. Explain to me what is wrong with it. Being serious again.

I'll see if I can find pictures of our 5th place Chicken boxes @ Lake Placid and Merrimack or the 8th @ Hudson Valley from this year. But with those results remember they will only be above average, not perfect examples.

Jacked UP BBQ · 11-03-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ihbobry

I'll see if I can find pictures of our 5th place Chicken boxes @ Lake Placid and Merrimack or the 8th @ Hudson Valley from this year. But with those results remember they will only be above average, not perfect examples.

thank you

ique · 11-03-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OC PIG ASSASSINS

As long as that makes you feel better, I guess I will go with that. I am here for you brother. Please be more specific when you are judging and looking for something special. What makes a box special in your opinion? I am asking seriously, since you are a judge.

What makes mine average, I can live with average, if I thought it was outstanding I would have never put it up here. Explain to me what is wrong with it. Being serious again.

There is nothing wrong with it. But the turn-in box doesn't make me say, 'damn, I gotta try that chicken'. It looks good, but nothing special that really makes me want to try it. Thats why it should get a 7 instead of a 9 in my completely subjective opinion.

ihbobry · 11-03-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ique

the turn-in box doesn't make me say, 'damn, I gotta try that chicken'. It looks good, but nothing special that really makes me want to try it.

Ding!

Thanks Chris!

Bbq Bubba · 11-03-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OC PIG ASSASSINS

As long as that makes you feel better, I guess I will go with that. I am here for you brother. Please be more specific when you are judging and looking for something special. What makes a box special in your opinion? I am asking seriously, since you are a judge.

What makes mine average, I can live with average, if I thought it was outstanding I would have never put it up here. Explain to me what is wrong with it. Being serious again.

Have you read the last 5 pages of your thread?

SmokeInDaEye · 11-03-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ihbobry

I'll see if I can find pictures of our 5th place Chicken boxes @ Lake Placid and Merrimack or the 8th @ Hudson Valley from this year. But with those results remember they will only be above average, not perfect examples.

And if you add them together you get...13th place chicken.

QDoc · 11-03-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DivaHerself

So when is it "comparison judging" and when is it "experience"?

When someone talks about non-comparison I have to laugh. I believe to do so is not possible and if one says they can do so I would submit they are deluded. I suppose if a judge has never seen a box he can score the first box he has ever seen iwithout comparison.

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11-03-2008, 01:43 PM	#65
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Culpeper, Virginia	[quote=OC PIG ASSASSINS;772906]Comparing has a simple definition. In this instance he stated it looked like many other boxes. We are not judging compared to many other boxes. We are also judging the meat, not the other parts of the box. quote] Keep up the good work. As a CBJ judge or ex-CBJ judge like me, I need to be reminded of this stuff...And I am serious and not joking! __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

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Jacked UP BBQ Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-09-08 Location: Forker River, NJ	Keep up the good work. As a CBJ judge or ex-CBJ judge like me, I need to be reminded of this stuff...And I am serious and not joking![/quote] Don't quit on us, we needed good judges!!!