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Old 11-11-2019, 09:39 PM   #1
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Default About 180's

Can someone please explain this to me

There are 6 judges at a table. Each capable of giving 3 maximum scores of a 9.

9 x 3 = 27
27 x 6 =???162???

Now if you ad just one more judge using the same math you end up with a 189.

Please tell me what I am not seeing.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:03 PM   #2
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First - It would be advisable for you to read the rules end to end. It's not long, but you should very much know what you can and cannot do at a contest. Additionally, there's some good information about what the judging procedure is.

Back to your question. Here's the relevant sections from the KCBS rules:

4) The scoring system is from 9 to 2, all whole numbers between two and nine may be used to score an entry. 9 excellent, 8 very good, 7 above average, 6 average, 5 below average, 4 poor, 3 bad, and 2 inedible.

5)A score of one (1) is a penalty or disqualification and requires approval by a Contest Rep. Grounds for penalty/disqualification: All judges will give a one (1) in Appearance for prohibited garnish, pooled sauce or less than 6 samples of meat. All judges will give a one (1) in all criteria for sculptured meat, a marked turn-in container, foreign object in the container, incorrect meat. All judges not receiving a sample will give a one (1) in all criteria.

6)The weighting factors for the point system are: Appearance-.5600, Taste 2.2972, Tenderness -1.1428.

7)The low score will be thrown out. Results will be tallied. If there is a tie in one of the categories, it will be broken by the computer, as follows: The scores will be compared (counting all five judges) for the highest cumulative scores in taste, then tenderness, then appearance. If still tied, then the low score, which was thrown out, will be compared and the higher of the low scores will break the tie. If still tied, then a computer generated coin toss will be used.

7a. In the event of lost, destroyed or missing score cards the remaining score cards will be averaged in each category and those averages shall be used as the missing scores on replacement score cards. After there are six total score cards the normal procedure will be followed for dropping the low score. These correct scores will be the official scores for any and all KCBS purposes.

So, each category is weighted, with taste being more important than tenderness and tenderness being more important than appearance.
And the lowest score is dropped from the table, so you are really only totaling 5 scores.

180 = 36 (perfect score from individual judge) * 5 (top five scores from the table)

How do we get 36?

9 * 2.2972 = 20.6748 = Taste score weighted

9 * 1.1428 = 10.2852 = Tenderness score weighted

9 * .5600 = 5.04 = Appearance score weighted

20.6748 + 10.2852 + 5.04 = 36

A 180 is often referred to as a perfect score or perfect 180. You only need 5 judges to score your entry with all 9s to get a 180.

A 'perfect perfect' would be all 6 judges scoring your entry with all 9s.
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