I Have A Chance To Buy Custom Shirley Fab Wheels - Questions

WeberWho · 08-14-2018, 03:13 PM

I've been in talks with forum member SudsandSwine about purchasing his custom wheels off his Shirley Fabrication Patio smoker that he just recently turned into a trailer. Just wanted to see if anyone has changed wheels on their Shirley smoker?

I guess my first question would be if this would be even possible to switch over to Shirley Fabrication custom wheels with a rotated firebox?

My second question would be is changing out the hubs. My current hub has 5 lugs. I'd need to change it to a 4 lug hub for these style wheels. Any recommendations for hubs or anything I need to look for? Or even possible to switch out hubs?

Just wanted to see if anyone has changed out wheels on theirs before. Thanks for the help!

My current wheels:

SudsandSwine wheels:

luv2smoke · 08-14-2018, 05:21 PM

If I'm seeing the picture correctly your hubs look like 5 lug hubs and the custom wheels appear to be 4 lug hubs? If that's the case you may have to change hubs or find some adapters?

WeberWho · 08-14-2018, 05:26 PM

It looks to be a 2.5" difference in diameter between my current wheels and Sudsandswine wheels. Mine being the smaller wheels. Which I believe would only push the new wheels 1.25" closer to the fire box. So clearance shouldn't be an issue with the turned fire box.

I guess the only other head scratcher is the hubs. I'm no mechanic. So now I need to figure out if the hubs are interchangeable so I could swap with a 4 stud hub. Anyone familiar with these types of hubs? Thanks!

PatAttack · 08-14-2018, 05:29 PM

I'm sure Paul will stop by when he gets a chance and have an answer for you.

WeberWho · 08-14-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by luv2smoke

If I'm seeing the picture correctly your hubs look like 5 lug hubs and the custom wheels appear to be 4 lug hubs? If that's the case you may have to change hubs or find some adapters?

I just saw your post. Yeah I think I'll need to switch out hubs. I've never switched out hubs before. I'd imagine there's some type of set standards with them and sizing. I've takes them apart before and regreased them but have never swapped them out. I just wonder if its as easy as it sounds or if it's going to be some crazy puzzle making everything work.

WeberWho · 08-14-2018, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PatAttack

I'm sure Paul will stop by when he gets a chance and have an answer for you.

Hey thanks. I hate to be a thorn with them. I think I'm making my way. Just not sure a 100% yet about the hubs. I have the smoker up in my parents garage at the moment. I made a quick stop there this evening for some measurments. I'm just going off what I saw for a few minute's. I need to find a trailer and get the smoker back to my place. I'd be able to at least visually see what's going on and see what it takes to remove hubs and get some measurments.

I think i might have the cart before the horse at this point of time. Usually how it goes for me!

WilliamKY · 08-14-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WeberWho

I just saw your post. Yeah I think I'll need to switch out hubs. I've never switched out hubs before. I'd imagine there's some type of set standards with them and sizing. I've takes them apart before and regreased them but have never swapped them out. I just wonder if its as easy as it sounds or if it's going to be some crazy puzzle making everything work.

I'm assuming both cookers are Shirleys. It looks like the carts they are mounted on are very similar. I'm guessing the hubs are the same size just a different # of lugs. It may be that easy just swapping them out. I would contact Shirley Fabrication just to be sure.

zippy12 · 08-14-2018, 06:47 PM

Wheels Really wheels

My concern would be how it cooks.....

tell him to get a brisket PRIME! cook it and then you taste to see if the smoker performs!

excellent pay full
good pay minus 20%
bad minus 50%

sudsandswine · 08-14-2018, 07:23 PM

Nothing wrong with adding some show to your go

Not really sure what to make with the rest of your post

WeberWho · 08-15-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamKY

I'm assuming both cookers are Shirleys. It looks like the carts they are mounted on are very similar. I'm guessing the hubs are the same size just a different # of lugs. It may be that easy just swapping them out. I would contact Shirley Fabrication just to be sure.

They are both Shirley smokers. I'm thinking I should be able to swap them out. Unless they have different size axles with different wheel setups. Hopefully they're universal from model to model

WeberWho · 08-15-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy12

Wheels Really wheels

My concern would be how it cooks.....

tell him to get a brisket PRIME! cook it and then you taste to see if the smoker performs!

excellent pay full
good pay minus 20%
bad minus 50%

Not sure if this post was for this thread or not. Smoker is all good in the hood.

WeberWho · 08-15-2018, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sudsandswine

Nothing wrong with adding some show to your go

Not really sure what to make with the rest of your post

Amen!

toys4dlr · 08-15-2018, 12:39 PM

I have searched high and low to find a wheel adapter for a 5 lug to 4 and I cant seem to find them, as I was going to redo my shirley wheels. I had Paul make mine narrow to fit through our pool gate and now we moved and have a RV gate. Paul mentioned that swapping the hubs are the way to go. I have not done it yet, as I am lazy. SUDS do you have the hubs from the conversion?? or just the wheels??

sudsandswine · 08-15-2018, 01:06 PM

Nope, just the wheels. Left the cart itself there.

TuscaloosaQ · 08-15-2018, 05:11 PM

Be aware of ths all the Axels we use now on our patio models are 3500#.... we use to use 2000#... but the price difference was not that much more to jump up to.3500# so we did.... to use golf cart wheels you will need a 4 on 4 bolt circle... the spindle size is different
On a 3500# axel and a 2000#.... I say this also....we use to buy end units and make our own axels..I would check the spindle size to see if they will be able to be swapped.... I say if someone wants to upgrade their wheels to have more bling... do it... I mean you earned that money I’m sure..... will it cook different no.... it will look cooler tho..... to each his own..... Tyler drives a 70,000$ Ford F-350 diesel dually.... I drive a 2010 tundra....... cause that is
What I like.... if you earn it spend it the way u want....

08-14-2018, 03:13 PM	#1
WeberWho is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 03-04-17 Location: Minnesota	I Have A Chance To Buy Custom Shirley Fab Wheels - Questions I've been in talks with forum member SudsandSwine about purchasing his custom wheels off his Shirley Fabrication Patio smoker that he just recently turned into a trailer. Just wanted to see if anyone has changed wheels on their Shirley smoker? I guess my first question would be if this would be even possible to switch over to Shirley Fabrication custom wheels with a rotated firebox? My second question would be is changing out the hubs. My current hub has 5 lugs. I'd need to change it to a 4 lug hub for these style wheels. Any recommendations for hubs or anything I need to look for? Or even possible to switch out hubs? Just wanted to see if anyone has changed out wheels on theirs before. Thanks for the help! My current wheels: SudsandSwine wheels:

08-14-2018, 05:21 PM	#2
luv2smoke Take a breath! Join Date: 08-15-14 Location: Simpletown, USA	If I'm seeing the picture correctly your hubs look like 5 lug hubs and the custom wheels appear to be 4 lug hubs? If that's the case you may have to change hubs or find some adapters? __________________ Cascade Smokers "Whole Hog" Insulated Reverse Flow Vertical & Wilson 640XL Deluxe

08-14-2018, 05:29 PM	#4
PatAttack somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-19-11 Location: In the Marsh	I'm sure Paul will stop by when he gets a chance and have an answer for you. __________________ "You have never lived until you have almost died". "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected will never know".-Unknown Vietnam Soldier 22" WSM 22" Weber Gold Weber Smoky Joe Weber Gasser Rec-Tec 590

08-14-2018, 06:47 PM	#8
zippy12 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-24-17 Location: Virginia Beach, VA	Wheels Really wheels My concern would be how it cooks..... tell him to get a brisket PRIME! cook it and then you taste to see if the smoker performs! excellent pay full good pay minus 20% bad minus 50% __________________ Stainless Steel 30gal UDS, 22.5 Webber, Lang 36

08-14-2018, 07:23 PM	#9
sudsandswine Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-23-12 Location: Kansas City	Nothing wrong with adding some show to your go Not really sure what to make with the rest of your post __________________ Shirley Fab 250g trailer \| Primo XL kamado \| [COLOR="Red"]Red[/COLOR] Weber Limited Edition kettle + 26” kettle \| Clonesaker PDS (pretty drum smoker)

08-14-2018, 05:26 PM	#3
WeberWho is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 03-04-17 Location: Minnesota	It looks to be a 2.5" difference in diameter between my current wheels and Sudsandswine wheels. Mine being the smaller wheels. Which I believe would only push the new wheels 1.25" closer to the fire box. So clearance shouldn't be an issue with the turned fire box. I guess the only other head scratcher is the hubs. I'm no mechanic. So now I need to figure out if the hubs are interchangeable so I could swap with a 4 stud hub. Anyone familiar with these types of hubs? Thanks!

08-15-2018, 12:39 PM	#13
toys4dlr is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-02-07 Location: Phoenix, AZ Name/Nickname : David	I have searched high and low to find a wheel adapter for a 5 lug to 4 and I cant seem to find them, as I was going to redo my shirley wheels. I had Paul make mine narrow to fit through our pool gate and now we moved and have a RV gate. Paul mentioned that swapping the hubs are the way to go. I have not done it yet, as I am lazy. SUDS do you have the hubs from the conversion?? or just the wheels?? __________________ Q-To-U-BBQ in Cave Creek, Arizona (RIP 2020) 2010, 2011 and 2019 Best BBQ in N. Phoenix Toys 4 BBQ'N Competition BBQ Team 4x Hunsaker Drum Smokers FEC 100 (sold), FEC 120 (sold), FEC 240, FEC 500 (sold), PG 500 Shirley Fab 52 x 24 Patio (sold) 250 gallon trailered Moberg

08-15-2018, 01:06 PM	#14
sudsandswine Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-23-12 Location: Kansas City	Nope, just the wheels. Left the cart itself there. __________________ Shirley Fab 250g trailer \| Primo XL kamado \| [COLOR="Red"]Red[/COLOR] Weber Limited Edition kettle + 26” kettle \| Clonesaker PDS (pretty drum smoker)

08-15-2018, 05:11 PM	#15
TuscaloosaQ Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-11-11 Location: Tuscaloosa Alabama	Be aware of ths all the Axels we use now on our patio models are 3500#.... we use to use 2000#... but the price difference was not that much more to jump up to.3500# so we did.... to use golf cart wheels you will need a 4 on 4 bolt circle... the spindle size is different On a 3500# axel and a 2000#.... I say this also....we use to buy end units and make our own axels..I would check the spindle size to see if they will be able to be swapped.... I say if someone wants to upgrade their wheels to have more bling... do it... I mean you earned that money I’m sure..... will it cook different no.... it will look cooler tho..... to each his own..... Tyler drives a 70,000$ Ford F-350 diesel dually.... I drive a 2010 tundra....... cause that is What I like.... if you earn it spend it the way u want.... __________________ TuscaloosaQ Check out our website at ShirleyFabrication.com Like our Facebook Page Facebook.com/ShirleyFabrication