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07-04-2011, 09:13 PM | #1 |
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Home made ketchup and sauce (no sugar)
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Making a BBQ Sauce I decided to have a pulled pork sandwich for dinner tonight. I cooked the pork butt yesterday, pulled it and gave it a little extra seasoning. But, what is really going to make the sandwich work is going to be the sauce. Now, I have a plethora of commercial sauces for testing and others that I have come to consider 'house' sauces, but, since I want this sandwich to be something special, I decided to make my own sauce. First up, I need ketchup that is low in sodium and without standard sugars common to commercial ketchup. I made this. Ketchup Recipe 2 cups cider vinegar (in my case, organic Spectrum Cider Vinegar) 1 tablespoon oil (can be olive oil, I used canola oil) 1/2 teaspoon coarse ground Phu Quoc Black Pepper 8 whole cloves 2 small bay leaves 1/4 teaspoon celery seed 1/2 teaspoon cayenne or chile powder 1 teaspoon ground mace 2 large cloves garlic, coarsely chunked 1/2 medium yellow onion, coarsely chopped 1/8 cup Bragg's Amino Acids 1/8 cup Red Boat Fish Sauce 32 oz. can crushed San Marzano tomatoes 8 little packs of Truvia Sweetener ( I really need to find the spoonable stuff) Bloom spices in oil over medium heat until aromatic, I add the powdered ingredients at the last moment. Then add the garlic and onions and sweat until translucent. Add vinegar and bring to simmer for 15 minutes. Once slightly reduced, remove bay leaves and cloves, then blend until desired texture is achieved. I like a little bit of texture left. Return to pot (unless you used a stick blender) and add fish sauce, Amino acids and San Marzano tomatoes. Cook over low for 10 minutes. Add Truvia to taste. Allow to cool. Here is the sauce made, after the addition of 1/8 cup of Black Currant infused balsamic vinegar, 1 more packet of Truvia and 1/8 cup more cider vinegar and a teaspoon of Lucky Dog hot sauce. This remained uncooked. The above ketchup recipe creates a spicy flavor with distinct tomato and savory flavors and a nice sweet heat on the finish. I really want a rich tomato flavor to ring through on the initial taste. This is not at all as thick, sweet or salty as commercial ketchup, it is more of a ketchup sauce. The additions for the BBQ sauce punches up a few of the flavors and adds a fruity character as well. Here is a close-up to show the thickness and texture of this sauce. This sauce is closer to the pork sauces you see in the south, thin with a distinct tang and a little heat. It is a sauce designed for pork. And this was it's final destination. A pulled pork sandwich, soft white bread, sweet pulled pork, spicy red sauce and some cole slaw and green tomato relish to round it all out. This is what a nice pork cooks ends up being all about.
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07-04-2011, 09:34 PM | #2 |
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Bravo! That sauce sounds very interesting. I think I'll be making some of that up for myself.
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07-04-2011, 10:06 PM | #4 |
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Good looking sammie ya got there Bob.
I call dibs on the re-runs. Thanks for sharing the recipe, I'll have to try that soon.
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07-04-2011, 10:16 PM | #5 |
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Sounds great not sure I would call it Ketchup though.
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07-04-2011, 10:20 PM | #6 |
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Been wanting to try a homemade ketchup for a while. That looks great! They sell the spoonable Truvia at my local grocery store, you should be able to find it somewhere.
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07-04-2011, 10:46 PM | #7 |
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I kinda figure it as ketchup since the main ingredients are the same as ketchup. I am not sure there is a specific definition of ketchup, maybe I should look it up.
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07-04-2011, 11:30 PM | #9 | |
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I just learned recently that ketchup as we know it was quite later in the game of its history. Vinegar and mushrooms was an early English style one. Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup#History
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07-05-2011, 12:04 AM | #10 |
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Yes, and if you go back even further, it was actually primarily a sauce common in many parts of Asia. It has it's origins in the fermented condiments common to Asia and the Mediterranean. But, for these purposes, this is American ketchup. I don't think it is any more complicated than most common commercial ketchups except that I use whole ingredients and not industrial processes and ingredients. It is miles different in terms of taste. That much is true.
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07-05-2011, 02:43 AM | #11 |
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Nice post Onii-Chan!
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07-05-2011, 05:54 AM | #12 |
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How did you like the truvia in that? I've used stevia for a couple of things, but hadn't really thought to use it in a sauce. I can't take the artificial sweetners, but stevia doesn't bother me.
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07-05-2011, 11:54 AM | #13 |
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Curt, so far what I have learned...
1. heat moderates the sweetness of Truvia, I am not sure about all stevia products. 2. The stevia/erythriol blend creates a milder sweetness that is less cloying, but, takes more product (expensive product I might add) to achieve versus artificial sweeteners or sugar. 3. Add Truvia just before taking off heat is best. 4. I didn't detect any off flavors, especially the bitterness that I first encounted years ago with pure stevia. 5. I will use this in BBQ sauce again, I actually liked the subtle sweetness it added. It does not appear to glaze however, which is an appearance issue. It works great as a mix in sauce though. 6. It is ridiculously sweet for coffee, with 3/4 teaspoon equaling 2 teaspoons of sugar, I do not like it in coffee. Then again, I rarely opt for sweetened coffee or tea.
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07-05-2011, 12:06 PM | #15 |
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That is one killer sammie, Bob. Many years back, a very close acquaintance () of mine spent a long time making some homemade ketchup. I remember it being a lot of work, but she wanted to try it. It tasted almost identical to a store-bought mass-produced ketchup. Not sure what we expected, but it definitely was not worth the effort and put us off further ketchup experimentation. There are so many different styles of ketchup, I think I would be up for some small batch experimentation. What you have looks very nice and is making me salivate. I love sweet heat and don't do sour -- FWIW, in general, ketchup on this side of the Atlantic is more sour than on the other side.
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