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Old 02-05-2010, 12:56 PM   #76
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I posted this on another forum, but I may have had a moment of clarity so I thought I'd throw it on here too...

I kinda 'jumped in' but try to follow along...

...has everything to do with the members communicating to the KCBS RULES COMMITTEE, and the Rules Committee communicating to the BoD. If there were more people attending the Rules Mtg, more people would get their voices heard, and maybe then we would feel better represented.
We all know that the meeting is held in conjunction with the Annual Banquet. PLAN FOR IT, regardless of where it is held. And if you can't possibly get there, send an e-mail or letter to the committee members beforehand.

The Rules Committee, on the other hand, has the responsibility to LISTEN and RESPOND. That becomes their job when they are assigned to the committee.
This is one reason that I, and many others, feel as though more non-BoD members should be on these sub-committees. A more thorough representation of the membership.

It comes down to making our voices heard, and having our views supported and REPRESENTED by the people we elect.
If people don't vote and/or communicate, then the system will not work the way it is designed.
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Problem #1 - Who are the members of the rules committee? We know who the chair is, but I may be sitting next to someone on the committee and never know it. KCBS needs to publish committee members and publish openings/needs for committees. This has been determined as an appropriate strategy from my unofficial committee on committees.

Problem #2 - The rules meeting is a inadequate vehicle for feedback. It holds way too small of a sampling. More or less... it is a complete waste of everyone's time.

Problem #3 - We make use of readily available technology way to little in the KCBS organization. Let's have moderated online discussions about rules proposals. More people have access to the Internet than will attend a meeting.
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Problem #3 - We make use of readily available technology way to little in the KCBS organization. Let's have moderated online discussions about rules proposals. More people have access to the Internet than will attend a meeting.
Ain't that the truth. Around the comps I've been to, it seems more likely than not the site has internet access in some capacity - laptop and/or cell phone. I don't have the hard numbers of how many members have internet access at home, but we know only 4 election ballets were requested. Seems to me that the active KCBS member is online. Seems the board would easily get feedback to proposals if they would set up surveys - which members could opt-in to get. And members could opt in to receive notifications about different subjects - competitions, rules, judging, recipes, sponsorship offers, etc.
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Problem #1 - Who are the members of the rules committee? We know who the chair is, but I may be sitting next to someone on the committee and never know it. KCBS needs to publish committee members and publish openings/needs for committees. This has been determined as an appropriate strategy from my unofficial committee on committees.

Problem #2 - The rules meeting is a inadequate vehicle for feedback. It holds way too small of a sampling. More or less... it is a complete waste of everyone's time.

Problem #3 - We make use of readily available technology way to little in the KCBS organization. Let's have moderated online discussions about rules proposals. More people have access to the Internet than will attend a meeting.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:19 PM   #79
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OK, Toddy and Bobby KCBS 2011!
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OK, Toddy and Bobby KCBS 2011!
Whatever, Jorgy.
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Did someone say Jorgy? I feel dirty just typing that.

(BTW, I still think our KCBS team pages are going to show team results this year. At least they should. Based on the Bullsheet meeting reports, the pages are set up by the database and it would be easy to add.)
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I see some scrubbing in this threads future....
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You mean people can talk to each other, plan and discuss ideas on the web?
Who would da thunk?
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i just meant ... no bad karma... shutting up now. ya right
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Do you know Paul Kirk? Why do you say he has to go? Maybe some people on this site need to be sending Paul emails asking him why he is doing things the way he does. But make no doubt about it the membership just re-elected him for another 3 year term so instead of basjhing him maybe you need to figure out how to make productive suggestions on what he can do better. If he got a thousand emails about "no report" then maybe we'd see more reports.

And there's an easy way around "no report" and I am going to send the current BOD members an email suggesting they consider implementing it. Instead of "no report" say "Will be reporting on the current status of our committee activities". then in the meeting "say we are continuing to investigate ... it's a long process to complete but we are making some progress".
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Ford, why in the heck would you provide the Board with another way to hide behind words and avoid doing the job it's supposed to do?
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Ford, why in the heck would you provide the Board with another way to hide behind words and avoid doing the job it's supposed to do?
Why does everybody bash a no report? There's a lot of committees that should probavly only report annually. And some members raise an agenda topic rather than doing a report. I've seen that a number of times.

Some committees need to report monthly, especially finance but I don't see people bashing the treasurer like other BOD members. There's a lot of selective bashing going on.
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I have a thought <scary!> since it's likely that any substantive rules will have deferred implementation until January 2011, what about have reps at contests with questionnaires (multiple guess even) getting MEMBER cook team input. Contest evals are passed out now, it'd just be another piece of paper available at a contest. It could be on line for completion with a membership number. Must be a member to have your input matter. Might even get more cooks to join???

I have 15 minutes before I'll be off the computer...is this good or bad?

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Maybe Candy But why not have a KCBS Members online forum where input is coming in daily?
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