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Old 10-15-2019, 12:59 PM   #1
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Greetings all. Long-time lurker, first-time poster.


I've spent most of this year working on my ribs. I have been using Williams Food Co. Rib Tickler Rub to make the rib recipe commonly attributed to Johnny Trigg. It's been going over incredibly well!


I've been buying my rub online. Recently, it appears that my usual sources (Amazon, bbqrubs. com) are OUT and it doesn't look like more is on the way. Some moderate Google-diving indicates rumors that it may be discontinued. Given that my friends have been demanding these ribs, this situation cannot stand.


I've decided to try to recreate the blend myself. At the very least it will keep me busy until such time that more of the real thing hits the shelves. For laughs, I've decided to document and hopefully crowdsource the process here.



I made my first attempt this past weekend with the following recipe, based off someone else's attempt on another message board I found:


1 Cup Turbinado Sugar
2 Tbsp Kosher Salt
2 Tbsp Hungarian Paprika
2 Tbsp Granulated Garlic
2 Tbsp Black Pepper
1 Tbsp Red Pepper


The ingredient amounts align with the order they are listed on the bottle (most to least). The color was very close to what I have in my remaining half bottle of the real thing, probably a little redder. This may be due to the red pepper, which I'll discuss in a minute. I smoked them over apple wood on my offset.



How'd they turn out? This wasn't it. At all.


They lacked the same sweetness that RT had, and the aforementioned red pepper was way too much. I like a nice pop on my bbq, but this was more than I was looking for. Overall they were kind of bland.



My next pass is going to go to 1/2C turbinado sugar and 1/2C light brown sugar instead. I'm also going to add more salt...maybe 1/4C although I'd consider going to 1/2C. Finally I am reducing the red pepper to at least 1 Tsp, maybe even 1/2-3/4.


Does anyone else have any insight on the future of Rib Tickler rub or the recipe itself? I'll probably be doing this at least once a month until I either find something close or they start selling it again.


Cheers.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:31 PM   #2
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I can't help with re creating the rub but hopefully it's not gone for good.

Chicken tickler is probably my favorite store bought chicken rub so if it's gone i'll be right there with you doing my best to clone it!
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:18 PM   #3
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Gave the company a call and they called me back and left this voice message:

Hi I'm returning your call in regards to William's food products. We had a passing of Mrs. Williams and the company is in probate so unable to produce any product but we appreciate your support and look forward to getting the product back to market place. Have a good day.

Sounds like it may be back on the market after legal issues are resolved
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:32 PM   #4
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Gave the company a call and they called me back and left this voice message:

Hi I'm returning your call in regards to William's food products. We had a passing of Mrs. Williams and the company is in probate so unable to produce any product but we appreciate your support and look forward to getting the product back to market place. Have a good day.

Sounds like it may be back on the market after legal issues are resolved

Thanks for the update! Sad to hear about Ms. Williams.


Gonna stay on my quest to figure out the recipe regardless. Probate cases can take some real time, especially if there's a lot of family involved.


Plus I have a 6lb bag of sugar I'll need to use.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:53 PM   #5
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So many different "red" peppers
Size of the grind could even change it up
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:52 PM   #6
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Thanks for the update! Sad to hear about Ms. Williams.


Gonna stay on my quest to figure out the recipe regardless. Probate cases can take some real time, especially if there's a lot of family involved.


Plus I have a 6lb bag of sugar I'll need to use.
Good luck and let us know when you figure it out!
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Old 10-15-2019, 07:12 PM   #7
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Guess I'm heading to HEB to get all they have. Appreciate the heads up.

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Old 10-15-2019, 07:31 PM   #8
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:06 PM   #9
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Send me a bottle if you find any ;)
I just checked my stash. 1/2 a bottle!!! Forgot I used a lot on 6 ribs last weekend. If I find any I'll let you know. Full panic mode...[emoji2962]

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The heb website doesn't list it any more either. I have ordered a few bottles of it from them before. I only have 2.5 bottles left.
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FWIW-I just hopped on Amazon and CJ Flavors has it for sale at $64.99 for a 12 ounce bottle. That must be some good stuff, as I’ve never used it.
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HEB closest to me was out. Last week the shelf was full. If I had only known...

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Old 10-16-2019, 03:01 PM   #14
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I'm glad I saw this when I did. Went to the BBQ store and got the last couple of bottles they had. Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:17 PM   #15
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Couldn't find it on their website. Went to C.H. Guenther (parent co) and couldn't find it there either. Neither site even lists it as a product.
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