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View Poll Results: Do you find comment cards helpful? | |||
Yes | 164 | 83.25% | |
No | 20 | 10.15% | |
Uncertain | 13 | 6.60% | |
Voters: 197. You may not vote on this poll |
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08-02-2013, 12:32 PM | #106 |
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I think any score of 7 or lower should be required to have a comment card.
As a cook would love to know why and as a judge I believe I owe it to the cook to tell him why.
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08-05-2013, 10:53 AM | #107 |
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Seems that the results of this poll provide a resounding "YES" to the helpfulness of comment cards. Additionally, several good and simple ideas were provided in the comments as to how to resolve the issue regarding removing the alternate number from the comment cards. Hopefully there can be some resolution to the issue soon. It would be nice to know judges have the option to use them again.
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08-05-2013, 11:19 AM | #108 |
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Join Date: 09-10-08
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This weekend's Battle Of BBQ Brethren was not KCBS sanctioned and I received 5 comment cards, 4 of which told me my brisket was too salty, and one for ribs, "sauce too sweet and too much"
Worthwhile? Absolutely! 1 card saying too much salt I could it chalk up to a judge being sensitive to salt, I really didn't think it was too salty when I tasted. But for 4 judges to comment same thing? I need to make a change. I'm not sure what the instructions to the judges were, but I appreciate the cards and will take their criticism to heart. Wishing I could expect the same at my next KCBS contest.
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08-05-2013, 12:23 PM | #109 |
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I'll post an example of the the scorecards we use for the Frostbuster BBQ when I get home tonight. It's just like what was suggested with check boxes for bad and good flavors and profiles. Also, at the Frostbuster the judges must comment on Good and Bad flavors. What they liked, what they didn't like..things like that and it doesn't take any longer for the judges to fill out these cards.
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08-05-2013, 12:53 PM | #110 | |
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As a KCBS Judge we are trained and told NOT to compare the entries. Each entry is to be judged on its own merits. If you haven't judged a contest you should. 99% of the judges I have sat with do take the time to give a fair and honest score. |
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08-05-2013, 08:08 PM | #111 |
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Here it is. This is the card we use for our contest, Frostbuster BBQ.
All the certified judges, included a few master judges, like the card and have no trouble getting it filled out in the half time frame. The numbers on the right top 1-6 and 7-12 have some general comments. If you notice 1-6 are the bad comments and 7-12 are the good comments and that corresponds to the very right column where the judges are to circle the number. There is also plenty of space to for a comment. judgingslip.pdf
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08-12-2013, 03:33 AM | #112 |
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Location: Lake View, New York
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[QUOTE=Hozman;2574637]I think any score of 7 or lower should be required to have a comment card.
Plus if a score is under 7, they should be thoughtfull and put there phone number down! In reallity if the table captain sees 999 988 988 998 then a 566, 967 the low scoring judge should have to explain...I can see maybe a tough or dry rib, but how do all give 9 for appearence then a 5?? Then last year I got a comment card that ribs were too juicy? That it squirted when bit into? I don't even inject ribs... but comment cards are usefull, as sometimes direction we travel is down a one way street..
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08-12-2013, 09:52 AM | #113 | |
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I've stated it MANY times and continue to believe that judging could be greatly improved by going to this type of scorecard (requiring a comment on every entry). Not only does this put the responsibility of "justifying" the score on the judge, but also will weed-out judges that aren't really wanting to improve the overall process (not taking the responsibility serious). There are enough "serious" judges around that losing a few "non-serious" judges will not only be beneficial to the system, but will give the serious judges better opportunities to be confirmed at contests - improving the system even further. Whatever can be done to improve judges and the overall process is definitely worth the extra time and effort!
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08-12-2013, 11:35 AM | #114 | |
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08-12-2013, 01:01 PM | #115 | |
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Very nice indeed!!! Just thinking, would there be any reason to have a # 13 - Other on the numbers/comments side? Or, maybe that would get to confusing? Just thinking........... wallace
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08-12-2013, 01:03 PM | #116 | |
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08-12-2013, 01:09 PM | #117 |
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Don't need the "# 13 - Other" as you have a place to list (write in) other comments.
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08-12-2013, 02:05 PM | #118 | |
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Thanks. wallace
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08-13-2013, 10:06 AM | #119 | |
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08-13-2013, 12:28 PM | #120 | |
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