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02-03-2013, 11:21 PM | #16 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Jeez, I cannot help myself. It appears the nut to adjust gets really hot so adjustment is hard. Why not just modify the Intake to resolve this???
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02-03-2013, 11:24 PM | #17 | |
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The basic answer is because the UDS is a lot easier to control temp on. I just don't find a personal need to change the way my pit barrel runs. Can it be tweaked? Sure! But I don't see a need for me personally to mess with it.
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02-03-2013, 11:32 PM | #18 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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02-03-2013, 11:39 PM | #19 | |
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Is a 3.5" hole big enough for ya!
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02-03-2013, 11:50 PM | #20 | |
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With that said, can it be changed to behave differently and achieve lower temps? Yes but that requires tweaking. The marketing strategy behind the PBC was to be 100% set and forget with no tweaking needed...which is bad for most of us on here because we are so OCD about temps and cook times. The average consumer isn't. Hopefully that helps you out a bit.. :)
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02-03-2013, 11:54 PM | #21 |
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Well to be fair the powder coating seems to make a difference in holding rock steady temps from what I gather.
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02-04-2013, 12:01 AM | #22 |
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I don't see how that would be any better than regular high heat paint. Powder coat isn't insulating it so the rock steady temps are more likely due to the smaller drum size and the gauge of the steel.
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02-04-2013, 01:47 AM | #23 | |
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http://www.jobshop.com/techinfo/pape...coating3.shtml |
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02-04-2013, 06:02 AM | #24 | |
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1. Value: it is prob the most inexpensive finished-complete smoker/cooker/grilled (whatever you want to call it) @ $225 shipped) that you can buy today and turn out EXCELLENT food on Friday when it arrives to you. 2. simplicity: there is no learning curve. 3. zero set up - you open the box, and you're ready to cook. 4. value- the price of $225 really hooked me. It is cheap money for this cooker. Ive seen others post the same. Great observation & point, Both are a steel drum. Period. You can modify one to work like the other, not modify at all, or whatever else you prefer. Actually, all of the controversy PBC vs UDS is what lead me to investigate the PBC and realize what a bargain it was at $225 shipped if I calculated the cost of parts for a UDS and paid myself my normal hourly wage to find the materials and build one. But, ill continue to keep an eye out for a 15 gal stainless steel drum on the cheap & if I get lucky ill build a uds someday. Definitely interested in the uds. |
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02-04-2013, 07:38 AM | #25 | |
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02-04-2013, 07:53 AM | #26 |
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what is exact size of a 15 gal stainless steel drum, diameter and height?
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02-04-2013, 10:33 AM | #27 | |
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Fact: powder coating does provide thermal insulation. Opinion: the smaller size and gauge of the steel provides the insulation. Just curious, do you even know the actual gauge of the steel on the PBC to be even making that statement? |
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02-04-2013, 10:49 AM | #28 | |
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14 " diameter x 27 " high.
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02-04-2013, 10:51 AM | #29 | |
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I guess it is a standardized cooker that appeals to folks who are unable to build a UDS for whatever reason? I find it hard to imagine that cost is one of those reasons though. A UDS can be built pretty cheaply, definitely less than $225, unless you are going for an SS drum or fancy graphics. Folks who built a drum would probably find it easy enough to add some holes, rebar, and hooks to find out if the hanging meat really cooks differently from the usual lay-it-on-the-grate method. Oh well, maybe I'll learn something new.
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