MMMM.. BRISKET..
The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.  



Our Homepage Donation to Forum Overhead Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Amazon Affiliate
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Q-talk

Notices

Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, equipment and outdoor cookin' . ** Other cooking techniques are welcomed for when your cookin' in the kitchen. Post your hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures, but stay on topic and watch for that hijacking.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-06-2018, 03:00 PM   #31
Zak
Full Fledged Farker
 
Zak's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-23-10
Location: Monson, MA
Default

What about "water glass"? I read about it when i needed to research the combustion chamber kit for my boiler and they use this to bond the chamber parts to the cast iron boiler surface. If it can withstand a boiler it may survive on a smoker. Lynn makes the kits.
Zak is offline   Reply With Quote




Old 09-06-2018, 03:11 PM   #32
ChrisL
Knows what a fatty is.

 
Join Date: 01-29-18
Location: Westford, MA
Name/Nickname : Chris
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zak View Post
What about "water glass"? I read about it when i needed to research the combustion chamber kit for my boiler and they use this to bond the chamber parts to the cast iron boiler surface. If it can withstand a boiler it may survive on a smoker. Lynn makes the kits.

Looks interesting, but apparently, it is water soluble.

Thanks,
Chris
ChrisL is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-06-2018, 03:19 PM   #33
dadsr4
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
Ed:

Did you rough up the pieces at all or just fit them together? Since the rim of the dome is broken under the hinge band, I am a little worried about it cracking when I install the band.

To that point, I am thinking about jb welding the dome and tightening the band while it is still "wet"

Chris
Parts repaired with JB Weld will creep if they are clamped too tight. Maybe just tighten enough to line things up and watch it for a little while, just in case.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB
dadsr4 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-07-2018, 01:09 PM   #34
EdF
is One Chatty Farker

 
Join Date: 01-25-17
Location: Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
Ed:

Did you rough up the pieces at all or just fit them together? Since the rim of the dome is broken under the hinge band, I am a little worried about it cracking when I install the band.

To that point, I am thinking about jb welding the dome and tightening the band while it is still "wet"

Chris
I just fit them together. I don't think roughing them up would do anything but help the bond, though.
__________________
Large BGE. KBQ C-60, Uuni Pro, TEC Cherokee FR, Polyscience SV machine.

And their helpers.
EdF is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-07-2018, 02:00 PM   #35
dadsr4
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EdF View Post
I just fit them together. I don't think roughing them up would do anything but help the bond, though.
Cleaning all grease from the bonding surfaces is important.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB
dadsr4 is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from:--->
Old 09-07-2018, 05:59 PM   #36
cookingdude555
Full Fledged Farker
 
cookingdude555's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-18-09
Location: USA
Default

See if the dome of tour egg would swap out? It’s possible it might fit. Bands could be an issue at that point tho. And the egg dome could be cost prohibitive.
__________________
John - Utah

Too many cookers ...
cookingdude555 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-08-2018, 08:48 AM   #37
Joe6Pack74
Got Wood.
 
Join Date: 03-01-17
Location: Griffin, GA
Name/Nickname : BrianZ
Default

Fire clay, made aluminum melting furnaces out of those. You can mold it and it cures hard.
Joe6Pack74 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-08-2018, 01:30 PM   #38
ChrisL
Knows what a fatty is.

 
Join Date: 01-29-18
Location: Westford, MA
Name/Nickname : Chris
Default

Wish me luck fellas! It went together really nicely and uneventfully.

I think my next phase is to grind the inside of the dome with a 36 grit sanding disc and cover it with 3/16" of an inch of refractory cement and wallboard fiberglass tape. I also noticed that the base has a crack in it as well, so that will get the same refractory cement treatment.

Chris
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cajunlid.jpg (78.5 KB, 200 views)
ChrisL is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from: --->
Old 09-08-2018, 01:39 PM   #39
dadsr4
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
Default

Just a question, based on looking at the pictures. What prevents you from rotating the lid so the hinge is at a location that was never broken? Who cares if the thermometer is off center, if it would take the strain off? Should cook the same.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB
dadsr4 is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from: --->
Old 09-08-2018, 05:50 PM   #40
Monte Cristo
is one Smokin' Farker
 
Join Date: 07-13-16
Location: Westerly, RI
Default

Looking good!
__________________
270 Smokers Sumo Insulated Cabinet Smoker - Weber Ranch Kettle - Weber Copper Kettle
Monte Cristo is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-08-2018, 08:58 PM   #41
ChrisL
Knows what a fatty is.

 
Join Date: 01-29-18
Location: Westford, MA
Name/Nickname : Chris
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dadsr4 View Post
Just a question, based on looking at the pictures. What prevents you from rotating the lid so the hinge is at a location that was never broken? Who cares if the thermometer is off center, if it would take the strain off? Should cook the same.
Honestly, that is exactly what I was thinking about doing. I feel pretty good about the support of the band though and may just put it back together the original way. I will figure out more once the epoxy drys and I apply the cement. I am thinking about using this cement.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Durst-Furnace-Cement/3455644


Chris
ChrisL is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-08-2018, 10:14 PM   #42
dadsr4
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
Honestly, that is exactly what I was thinking about doing. I feel pretty good about the support of the band though and may just put it back together the original way. I will figure out more once the epoxy drys and I apply the cement. I am thinking about using this cement.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Durst-Furnace-Cement/3455644


Chris
To my way of thinking, the more dissimilar materials you add, with different rates of expansion and contraction, the more chance of cracking. If JB Weld is good enough for Big Green Eggs, it should do well for you. I would rotate, if it were me.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB
dadsr4 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-09-2018, 07:32 AM   #43
lunchman
is Blowin Smoke!

 
Join Date: 05-12-10
Location: Massachusetts
Name/Nickname : Dom
Default

Lookin' good Chris! As I mentioned to you, keep in mind as you reassemble that what I believe was the reason for the crack was the lid wasn't closing evenly from left to right. There was a gap on the left side. Had I realized it soon enough, the hinge mechanism somehow became misaligned, placing stress on the lid. I'd make sure the hinge axle is straight and everything works properly and smoothly before reinstall. I'd hate to see all your hard work turn into another cracked lid.

I never knew there was a crack in the base.

As mentioned, fwiw, these Bayou Classics suffered from fire ring cracks, which this one surely did in its first few months of use. I contacted BC, they told me they were redesigning the fire ring to include an intentional split in it for expansion/contraction. It took them a few weeks before it was ready but they did cover it under warranty. It worked as expected and has held up since 2010 or 2011 when it was installed.

-Dom
__________________
Goldens' Cast Iron Cooker, Weber 18" Kettle, 36" Blackstone
lunchman is online now   Reply With Quote


Thanks from:--->
Old 09-09-2018, 10:10 AM   #44
tjv
Full Fledged Farker
 
Join Date: 12-20-07
Location: denton tx
Default

I hope it works. t
tjv is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-09-2018, 05:14 PM   #45
-Chris-
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 01-28-18
Location: Boston, MA
Name/Nickname : Chris
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dadsr4 View Post
To my way of thinking, the more dissimilar materials you add, with different rates of expansion and contraction, the more chance of cracking. If JB Weld is good enough for Big Green Eggs, it should do well for you. I would rotate, if it were me.
Hmm, my thought was to apply the refractory cement to shield the JB weld from the heat. JB Weld is only good to 550 degrees then it turns to dust apparently.

I am still on the fence around rotating the dome 90 degrees, it may be a game time decision.

Dom, thanks for the feedback on the hinge, I see what you are talking about, not sure how to fix that yet.

Yeah, the base is almost cracked all the way across, I am on a plane, but will take a photo when I get home. I think that is an easy fix with the refractory cement as it is not a stressed area.

While this smoker is better looking than a BGE IMO, the build quality is way-way off.

Thanks,
Chris
__________________
Big Green Egg - Shirley 36 - Yoder YS640 - Blackstone FT
-Chris- is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Forum Custom Search: Enter your Search text below. GOOGLE will search ONLY the BBQ Brethren Forum.
Custom search MAY not work(no display box) in some configurations of Internet Explorer. Please use compliant version of Firefox or Chrome.







All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts