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View Poll Results: Do you find comment cards helpful? | |||
Yes | 164 | 83.25% | |
No | 20 | 10.15% | |
Uncertain | 13 | 6.60% | |
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07-26-2013, 12:56 AM | #31 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 11-12-06
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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I'm going to say that I'm in favor of the "voluntary" comment cards. If we make it mandatory for a card on any score lower than, say, a 7 then we will end up with a three number scoring system - 7, 8 and 9. Some judges don't want to fill them out, think that it's too much trouble, won't change anything, etc.
Personally if I give you a 6 or lower I want to tell you why. A 6 by itself won't kill you but two of them ruins your day. Shouldn't you know why I felt that I needed to say that your food was "average" or less? And we all know that "average" food isn't going to win any prizes .
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07-26-2013, 07:29 AM | #32 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 02-27-07
Location: Northern VA
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Fixed your post for ya
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07-26-2013, 08:25 AM | #33 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 04-14-04
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I'm with Dave: A 6 or under definitely gets a card. And I hate to say it but I agree about judges not wanting to fill them out if they're too "hard". Jean and I would, but the vast majority? I doubt it. Then you have a new system that doesn't work as well as the old...
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07-26-2013, 08:35 AM | #34 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 03-20-11
Location: Albany, NY
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My team has yet to receive a card (and certainly not because we're so good in all four meats). IMHO, make prepopulated checkbox cards as others have discussed to make them quick and easy and then make them mandatory regardless of score. You can always include a couple lines for optional comment if the judge wants to go into additional detail. If a judge can't describe why they did or didn't like an entry then they probably shouldn't be judging. If the comment cards are well thought out they could even help judges be better judges without resulting in nothing but 8s.
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07-26-2013, 08:47 AM | #35 |
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Join Date: 12-03-08
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07-26-2013, 08:51 AM | #36 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 02-27-07
Location: Northern VA
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I'm with ya on this. Move turn ins to one hour apart (starting at 11) so that judges have time to evaluate and properly comment on each entry.
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07-26-2013, 08:56 AM | #37 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Now there's a thought!
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07-26-2013, 09:00 AM | #38 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 12-03-08
Location: Pearl River LA
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Now we're talkin! But I have a feeling that the move to one hour betwen turn ins would meet more resistance than mandatory comments.
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07-26-2013, 09:52 AM | #39 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 01-15-12
Location: Kalama Wa.
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We spend most of our time cooking at PNWBA contests(we have very few KCBS events up here), under PNWBA every judge gives a comment card for all four meats. I have found them extremely valuable in upping my game(note, about 25% of them are useless comments). When cooking at KCBS, you never quite know why you received those bad scores. We also have hour turn-ins so the judges can get those comments put together.(I do like the hour turn-ins)
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07-26-2013, 10:12 AM | #40 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 10-16-07
Location: Ohio
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I like comment cards, I think they should be encouraged. We had success making changes based on a card. As far as the team number issue. You can read through many permanent markers depending on the print underneath. A better approach is to allow space at the bottom of the card and have the reps cut the bottom of the card off removing the team number.
I don't know if I like spacing out turn in times as much as it could make things easier. If you take the crazy insanity of the small turn in window you remove a lot of what makes this thing we do so much fun.....and insane.
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07-26-2013, 10:40 AM | #41 | |
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07-26-2013, 10:45 AM | #42 | |
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Edited to add: I like that more Reps are requiring all judges to stay at the table until they are all done judging. Unfortunately, I haven't seen that make the "speed judges" take any more time actually judging the entries. |
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07-26-2013, 11:21 AM | #43 |
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Join Date: 02-18-10
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I like comment cards but they are only as good as the judge! Last comp I turned in 8 slices of brisket flat - no burnt ends and all slices from same brisket. I received 2 commet cards. First one said Great flavor but under cooked, Second one said No Flavor and over cooked!
The Judge who said it was under cooked needs some serious re-training! That brisket needed some duck tape to hold it together!!
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07-26-2013, 11:28 AM | #44 | |
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This is my favorite comment because it is the only one I have received that was positive.
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07-26-2013, 11:35 AM | #45 | |
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