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Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind. |
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11-20-2013, 01:53 PM | #61 | |
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Join Date: 12-31-10
Location: Albert City, Iowa
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And I have another buddy of mine who calls me fairly often and he is an up and coming team. he did well this year and plans on making a serious run next year. At least once a week he asks me if I have heard any updates on the pork rule. Both these guys can and will go by whatever rule is in place even if it is the same as this season and previous seasons but it sounds like they might want to practice to learn any and all options. As for me, I am not a good enough cook to worry about it one way or the other. I will mess it up no matter which way I cook it.
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11-20-2013, 02:15 PM | #62 |
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Join Date: 02-17-09
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The original intent of the pork rule was for the PitMaster to demonstrate their abilities in cooking the whole shoulder or one of the 2 halves typically available (the whole picnic or the whole butt). Trimming into muscle groups was never the intention. The cook became creative and further separated the shoulder into muscle groups making it easier to cook. The rule changed by add minimum weight and no parting. Once again the cook's become very creative in their trimming by using partial parting into separate muscle groups than demonstrating actual cooking skills. The rule has been stretching beyond its flexibility in a sport centered on honesty and integrity than rule watchdogs in every camp.
Proposed rule. Pork shall be the whole shoulder or one of the two halves (Picnic or Butt) having a minimum weight of 5 pounds after trimming. Separation of muscles before cooking is complete is prohibited. |
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11-20-2013, 02:52 PM | #63 |
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Join Date: 05-02-08
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I just hope when this is settled, someone from KCBS is able to answer definitively what is and isn't legal. I could care less how it ends up. I just don't want to get DQ'd over a misunderstanding.
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11-20-2013, 02:58 PM | #64 | |
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I wouldn't count on that.... I know a former pork TOY that is practicing ....
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11-20-2013, 03:19 PM | #65 |
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Join Date: 09-25-06
Location: Elk Creek, Ky.
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If I can cook separately, you damn well bet for sure I'll be developing ways to only cook 2 butts instead of 4!!.. All on the smoker, all low and slow, so don't try to kick my a$$ for 'grilling'.. Every time we pull butts after turn in, it's so damn tough on the muscles we don't cook, it's just a waste of not making an entire, good quality pork. If it wasn't for my wife, I'd just throw them shoe soles in the trash.
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11-20-2013, 04:13 PM | #66 | |
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11-20-2013, 06:54 PM | #67 | |
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Join Date: 09-03-12
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Honestly, making the rule simply "the pork must come from the shoulder" is good enough for me and would put it in line with the other three meats.
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11-20-2013, 09:06 PM | #68 |
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Join Date: 07-02-13
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The butchers would love that, they could charge as much as they want for the MM by itself and everyone would pay it. Teams would cook 1 whole butt and 6 MM's
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11-20-2013, 09:18 PM | #69 |
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Join Date: 07-02-13
Location: The Shenandoah Valley
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Thinking out loud here....has there been any discussion about limiting teams to only cooking 2 butts (and a simple "5 lb min, has to be from the shoulder rule")? That way everyone is on the same playing field and the MM harvesting issue goes away. You simply cook 2 butts and turn in the best parts, whatever that may be. Only challenge would be how to handle when teams cook extra meat for people choice, there would be no way to separate the KCBS meat from PC meat.
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11-20-2013, 10:38 PM | #70 | |
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The only real difference if parting is allowed is that people will cook fewer butts. For all the talk of grilled MM or pork sausage, all you will see is the same boxes turned in and less pork in the trash.
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11-20-2013, 11:34 PM | #71 | |
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This is how I feel about the rule. Like many, we cook 2 butts for MM (which the rest is trashed) and 2 butts for pulled, chunks, etc. I don't like to waste food but I'm not going to risk being DQ'd just to satisfy my own desire to not waste. It doesn't give me any advantage finishing the rest of the butts so why not allow it? |
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11-21-2013, 05:27 AM | #72 |
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Join Date: 09-14-10
Location: Rogers, AR
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You guys make me feel dumb. I use the same butts for pulled and for MM.
I must be the only SOB with hot spots on my cooker. |
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11-21-2013, 05:30 AM | #73 |
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Join Date: 06-20-09
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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I was just thinking the same thing! I cook 3 butts as that is all the room I have but use them all for MM and pulled.
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11-21-2013, 06:42 AM | #74 | |
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No I cook 3 butts and the way I do it I can get MM, chunks and Pulled all from the same one. The last contest I did came in 6th out of 43 and everything in the box came from one butt.
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11-21-2013, 07:13 AM | #75 |
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Location: Springfield, MO
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Me too. I cook two butts, pick the best one, and turn it in, but what do I know?
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