Trying to decide between a gravity fed "assassin" or manual fed "backwoods" cabinet smoker

GrillsGoneWild · 03-03-2013, 10:11 PM

I'm looking at making a purchase on a cabinet smoker, but I'm in a dilemma of whether to go with a gravity fed model or a manual fed. Does the gravity fed smokers have a larger fuel capacity and therefore longer burn time? I want to go with something that is going to give me the longest burn time on a load of fuel possible. When at competitions I can handle the up every 1 1/2hr to fed the stick burner but on a lazy weekend at home and I want to throw on a brisket for the next day's lunch I don't want to babysit my smoker.
Anything else other than burn time that someone can point out the differences between a Backwoods and an Assassin?

Bludawg · 03-03-2013, 11:05 PM

One thing you will never have to concern yourself with using a Backwoods is a logjam in the feed chute.

Untraceable · 03-04-2013, 06:03 AM

I think it might be easier to control wood usage with the backwoods. Both smokers are going to give you plenty of burn time.

WineMaster · 03-04-2013, 06:38 AM

13.8 lb bag of Kingsford yielded a 15 1/2 hr burn at 28 degrees with winds 10-20 mph on a MJH last weekend. Thats a fuel miser. Thats using the fuel to heat it up from cold too.

Goddahavit · 03-04-2013, 06:43 AM

2 different cookers, do you want to use water? I think the backwoods gives a more pronounced smoke, the gravity feed, can go on forever.

With the backwoods, you can set your burn up and not add wood or coals until your done, with the gravity i have to add wood every 1-2 hours for the first part of the cook to get the smoke i like.

I also think the backwoods puts color on faster than my stumps, good or bad, it does, it also cooks a bit faster.

both quality smokers but different.

Jaskew82 · 03-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Goddahavit hit the nail on the head. Stumps gets LONG burn times with the smallest amount of effort. It has a tiny learning curve but requires you put flavor wood in every so often. with a backwoods you set it up in the beginning and tend to it a little to get it where you want it but then it should chug along. If it needs more charcoal, it is a bit more work. They cook faster because of the reverse flow and use water. They are more difficult to clean up as well but put out a great product.

Both are great cookers and have their positives and negatives. If you want ease, nothing beats a stumps. If you want water and more smoke, go with backwoods.

JS-TX · 03-04-2013, 01:57 PM

Personally I wouldn't want to mess with water, just another thing to prep and clean afterwards. If you use lump (that's not RO or Cowboy) you should have plenty of smoke flavor regardless of what you use.

GrillsGoneWild · 03-05-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WineMaster

13.8 lb bag of Kingsford yielded a 15 1/2 hr burn at 28 degrees with winds 10-20 mph on a MJH last weekend. Thats a fuel miser. Thats using the fuel to heat it up from cold too.

WineMaster - You have my interest on the MJH with that long of a burn time. Is the firebox hold the whole bag or did you have to reload? What temp was that cooking at? Is the MJH set up like the Backwoods to be a reverse flow smoker? Do you use the water pan in there? How is the clean up?

treytexag · 03-05-2013, 09:22 PM

That MJH does look pretty good, especially considering its cost.

Jason TQ · 03-05-2013, 09:46 PM

I literally just went from a gravity fed (TnT) to 2 Backwoods in December. Burn time is pretty similar. I could get a few more pounds of charcoal in the gravity chute, but I haven't really had to reload my BWS. Adding more charcoal in a gravity fed is a little easier, but for BWS all you have to do is push the lit stuff to the back of the pan and add more in the front. Not hard at all for me.

The water pan clean up is something you don't have to deal with in a gravity feed. The BWS is a little easier to setup the wood for long smokes without having to add more wood, though a lot of gravity fed guys add wood in the chute with the charcoal.

Both cook efficiently, but I have noticed that my BWS temp recovery time when I open the door is a lot faster than the gravity fed. A part of this is due to the BWS cooking chamber being smaller.

One other thing to think about is what size do you need. I loved how big my TnT was, but rarely ever had it loaded up and I needed a trailer to move it. I can get both my BWS in the back of my truck and tote them around.

03-03-2013, 10:11 PM	#1
GrillsGoneWild is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-30-10 Location: Rockwall, TX	Trying to decide between a gravity fed "assassin" or manual fed "backwoods" cabinet smoker I'm looking at making a purchase on a cabinet smoker, but I'm in a dilemma of whether to go with a gravity fed model or a manual fed. Does the gravity fed smokers have a larger fuel capacity and therefore longer burn time? I want to go with something that is going to give me the longest burn time on a load of fuel possible. When at competitions I can handle the up every 1 1/2hr to fed the stick burner but on a lazy weekend at home and I want to throw on a brisket for the next day's lunch I don't want to babysit my smoker. Anything else other than burn time that someone can point out the differences between a Backwoods and an Assassin? __________________ Do not eat any of it raw or boiled at all with water, but rather roasted with fire. Exodus 12:9

03-03-2013, 11:05 PM	#2
Bludawg somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-04-09 Location: Jonesboro,Tx	One thing you will never have to concern yourself with using a Backwoods is a logjam in the feed chute. __________________ I'm a Proxy Vegetarian> Cows eat grass & I eat cows.

03-04-2013, 06:38 AM	#4
WineMaster Babbling Farker Join Date: 01-16-07 Location: Southern MN	13.8 lb bag of Kingsford yielded a 15 1/2 hr burn at 28 degrees with winds 10-20 mph on a MJH last weekend. Thats a fuel miser. Thats using the fuel to heat it up from cold too. __________________ Dan MJH From Backyard Bomber BBQ -- Junior YS 640 Comp 22.5 Weber Kettle Blue Thermopen Comp Team Wine & Swine

03-04-2013, 06:43 AM	#5
Goddahavit is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-18-08 Location: PA, Fleetwood	2 different cookers, do you want to use water? I think the backwoods gives a more pronounced smoke, the gravity feed, can go on forever. With the backwoods, you can set your burn up and not add wood or coals until your done, with the gravity i have to add wood every 1-2 hours for the first part of the cook to get the smoke i like. I also think the backwoods puts color on faster than my stumps, good or bad, it does, it also cooks a bit faster. both quality smokers but different. __________________ Fire & Spice Catering & Competition Team [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL] Stumps Platinum 5 on a porch trailer Backyard Jambo Stump's Stretch Bubba Keg Weber WSM Old weber gasser

03-04-2013, 08:03 AM	#6
Jaskew82 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-20-11 Location: Mooresville, NC	Goddahavit hit the nail on the head. Stumps gets LONG burn times with the smallest amount of effort. It has a tiny learning curve but requires you put flavor wood in every so often. with a backwoods you set it up in the beginning and tend to it a little to get it where you want it but then it should chug along. If it needs more charcoal, it is a bit more work. They cook faster because of the reverse flow and use water. They are more difficult to clean up as well but put out a great product. Both are great cookers and have their positives and negatives. If you want ease, nothing beats a stumps. If you want water and more smoke, go with backwoods. __________________ Hillside BBQ 2013 Stumps Classic - Delivered 4/15/13 Large BGE - Rescued 2012 2010 WSM 22.5" 2010 Weber genesis gas grill Rescued 22.5 Weber One-touch gold Yellow Thermopen BBQ Guru CyberQ 2011 Built UDS - Retired

03-04-2013, 06:03 AM	#3
Untraceable Babbling Farker Join Date: 05-19-11 Location: EAD	I think it might be easier to control wood usage with the backwoods. Both smokers are going to give you plenty of burn time.

03-04-2013, 01:57 PM	#7
JS-TX is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 02-17-10 Location: San Antonio, TX	Personally I wouldn't want to mess with water, just another thing to prep and clean afterwards. If you use lump (that's not RO or Cowboy) you should have plenty of smoke flavor regardless of what you use.

03-05-2013, 09:22 PM	#9
treytexag On the road to being a farker Join Date: 06-19-12 Location: Houston, Texas	That MJH does look pretty good, especially considering its cost.

03-05-2013, 09:46 PM	#10
Jason TQ somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-10-11 Location: Lawrenceville, GA	I literally just went from a gravity fed (TnT) to 2 Backwoods in December. Burn time is pretty similar. I could get a few more pounds of charcoal in the gravity chute, but I haven't really had to reload my BWS. Adding more charcoal in a gravity fed is a little easier, but for BWS all you have to do is push the lit stuff to the back of the pan and add more in the front. Not hard at all for me. The water pan clean up is something you don't have to deal with in a gravity feed. The BWS is a little easier to setup the wood for long smokes without having to add more wood, though a lot of gravity fed guys add wood in the chute with the charcoal. Both cook efficiently, but I have noticed that my BWS temp recovery time when I open the door is a lot faster than the gravity fed. A part of this is due to the BWS cooking chamber being smaller. One other thing to think about is what size do you need. I loved how big my TnT was, but rarely ever had it loaded up and I needed a trailer to move it. I can get both my BWS in the back of my truck and tote them around. __________________ -Jason I didn't choose D-Canoe life..........