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11-15-2013, 06:50 PM | #1 |
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KCBS Pork Rule
I haven't seen anything on here, but I saw something on Facebook indicating that Mike Peters proposed changing the new pork rule at the 11th hour. Did it pass? Do we know what the pork rule would be next year?
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11-15-2013, 07:14 PM | #2 |
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I listened to the mp3 and it was changed again by a motion brought up by Mike Peters but there will be another meeting in two weeks where it will probably change again.
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11-15-2013, 07:44 PM | #3 | |
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11-15-2013, 08:54 PM | #4 |
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New rule will allow any type of pork, including McRib. (j/k)
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11-15-2013, 10:06 PM | #5 |
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On the KCBS website, there are quick notes from the BOD meeting. Looks like two votes for the pork rule were taken and one passed. The Mike Peters rule called for no returning of pork to the smoker once it was parted.
I propose the following motion for consideration: PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic and/or Whole Shoulder, weighing a minimum of five (5) pounds. After trimming, pork shall be cooked whole (bone in or bone out). Once parted into slices, medallions, cutlets, chunks, pulled or shredded portions, those portions may not be returned to the cooker or grill. Second Mike Budai Motion Pass 6 yes, Mike B, Randy B, Kim C, Wayne L, Tana S, Mike P 4 No, Steve F, Don H, Dave C, Jeff S The second vote called for the returning of parted pork be up to the cook. Jeff Stith I make the motion that the set of rules for 2014 be officially finalized. There were only two rules applying to cooks that were passed as motions to be changed during this year. 1. Rule #12 regarding garnish was changed in wording. The last sentence currently says: "Improper garnish shall receive a score of one (1) on appearance. The word "improper" has been changed to "illegal". 2. The pork rule has been changed to read: Pork: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic and/or Whole Shoulder. After trimming, pork shall be cooked whole /9bone in or bone out), however, once cooked, it may be separated and returned to the cooker at the cook's discretion. It may be turned in chopped, pulled, chunked, sliced or a combination of any of those." Second Steve Farrin 3-Yes Steve F, Dave C, Jeff S 7-no Don H, Tana S, Mike B, Randy B, Kim C, Wayne L, Mike P Motion fails as is. Funny thing is both of those votes have a note from whoever took the quick notes that states, Consensus of the BOD is to put the 5 lb back in and allow the meat to be put back on the smoker. I personally don't understand how that statement can be made about the Mike Peters' motion if it specifically indicates the pork cannot be returned to the smoker. Regardless, they have set aside both votes for another meeting later this month. |
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11-16-2013, 05:25 AM | #6 |
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11-16-2013, 07:38 AM | #7 | |
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11-16-2013, 08:35 AM | #8 |
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"Once parted into slices, medallions, cutlets, chunks, pulled or shredded portions, those portions may not be returned to the cooker or grill."
it looks like you may be able to cook two buts cut the MM off when you want the return the rest. is that what they mean by "those portions"? |
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11-16-2013, 10:39 AM | #10 | |
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11-16-2013, 12:17 PM | #11 |
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It must weigh 5 pounds minimum.
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11-16-2013, 01:13 PM | #12 |
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I read it as it must be 5lb minimum before cooking. I don't consider a whole money muscle as a chunk, cutlet, slices, medallions, etc
I think we are looking at the next tax law.
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11-16-2013, 04:43 PM | #13 |
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How could you not see the MM as a chunk? Reading the proposed change/motion, it would appear that once any part of the meat as a whole was taken, cut, pulled, whatever, that NONE of it could go back... That's the way it reads it me, but I've been reading and writing legal-ez for a few years, so I'm not sure if I'm breaking down the statement too much.
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11-16-2013, 04:59 PM | #14 |
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I propose the following motion for consideration:
PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic and/or Whole Shoulder, weighing a minimum of five (5) pounds. After trimming, pork shall be cooked whole (bone in or bone out). Once parted into slices, medallions, cutlets, chunks, pulled or shredded portions, those portions may not be returned to the cooker or grill. Second Mike Budai Motion Pass 6 yes, Mike B, Randy B, Kim C, Wayne L, Tana S, Mike P 4 No, Steve F, Don H, Dave C, Jeff S As I read and reread I keep coming up with the same thing, it depends on what the interpretation of "those portions" is. If that means once I cut the MM out I can put the rest back on for my pulled, I like it less meat I have to buy.
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11-16-2013, 05:56 PM | #15 | |
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