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Judging Rings and Garnish

jmoney7269 said:
And in just sayin BRO that if your a judge and your marking down scores on something your told not to judge on in the first place, I'm glad I don't compete in your sanctioning body. Down here there is no appearance Because appearance makes no difference on how it tastes, makes no difference on how tender it is, makes no difference on the overall enjoyment of the meat being sampled by the judge.
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Justin, look to the left... I'm in Tx too BRO. Like Texana said appearance is part of the score. Even says so on the scoring sheet. BTW, I've never heard a judging official say to ignore the smoke ring or lack thereof. I can see why you want one, but don't get riled up cause I can spot a really fake looking smoke ring. Also TQ has sugar and salt, they have taste.
 
Natural or unnatural? C'mon! You can tell by looking, right?

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Who is to say you would tell the truth anyway? I'm sure JS doesn't know you from Adam.
 
Your in your face challenge to JS wasn't nice or brethrenly either.
 
Anyone who says they can spot a fake smoke ring needs a little re-education; this one (which admittedly looks fake) is completely natural - that's all I'm sayin'. I don't want to be judged down for something that is someone's "perception" of reality...
 
It would just be easier to agree to disagree. You guys have made my night. Good grief I need to get a life. Happy smoking!
 
Texana said:
Your serious about BBQ and most of ur cooks are unsanctioned?...

And for the others....don't judge all Texas cooks by the same standard.

And Jmoney Texas events do include appearance. While it is combined and not a separate score taste judges are still instructed to include it.....oops that's in sanctioned events with serious cooks.

And one more thing.....TQ is not against the rules. However serious cooks don't need to use it.....just sayin
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How about this one? Chappel hill VFD grand champs SANCTIONED! 1st ribs out of 108 entrys! 3rd chicken 9th brisket and we used TQ on the damn thang! Oh gotta throw in 2nd chefs choice. That serious enough for you bud? Where are your major GC trophys? I got plenty of them? Remember I only been a contributing member for a few months on here and txbbqrub forum.
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The same rib that won that won the Bellville country music festival 38 teams non sanctioned
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What else do you wanna see? Oh I got more
140 teams. Used my Famous rib glaze and bean recipe. 1st beans btw which were a core Categeory
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Washington county fair king of coals sanctioned. 28 out of 30 possible sanctioned 1st ribs and brisket, 3rd chicken
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Now that we got that out of the way of me and our team Being crappy cooks Because half of our cookoffs are non sanctioned. What now! Are we worthy now ti give our opinion on what good bbq is? I obviously know what the heck I'm talkin about. If I missed something, please fill me in!
 
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Fat Woody said:
Anyone who says they can spot a fake smoke ring needs a little re-education; this one (which admittedly looks fake) is completely natural - that's all I'm sayin'. I don't want to be judged down for something that is someone's "perception" of reality...
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Amen brotha! I'm not there to get judged on perception, Im there to take home
Money Because my chit tastes good!!! No BBQ snob here! And any of to that think that you have the right to judge down on a smoke ring when your directed not to judge on at all to begin with, you definitely need some
Re education on morals also. Teams spend $1000's on cookoffs. Don't cost you a thing to judge
 
CTBA? How many rib entries you turn in to get that 1st ribs? Told us two on the other forum?
 
That one trophy up on the right looks like a bowling trophy. Them don't count for BBQ. :shock:
 
This is too rich! Hey Craig, show him the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo GC. Or hey that Pitmaker Vault on the trailer GC trophy. That was a good one. :blah:
 
I know it's early but are those trophies made of empty beer cans?
God bless Texas.
 
Well in the military we called it Situational Awareness... Pontification about "salad" in a box and sauce covering up the Q on a 95% KCBS board would demonstrate a lack of it.

Well, asking Craig if he has any Major GC's does that as well also. Especially as he's on his way to the Royal where I do believe he is in the Invitational.

As a native Texan, I've got my prejudice's about where I think the best Que comes from and I don't really care what other people think. But I hate to see comments like this.

chrisnjenn said:
Gotta laugh at these Texans sometimes.
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I stand by my statement that you can't judge how an organization is run or its standards of judging if you never cook in it. Which by the way, Sam's is coming back to Texas next year. Jump in, the water is fine.
 
SDAR said:
CTBA? How many rib entries you turn in to get that 1st ribs? Told us two on the other forum?
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2, one dry, one glazed. Not my problem I used the allowances to my advantage.

SDAR said:
That one trophy up on the right looks like a bowling trophy. Them don't count for BBQ. :shock:
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Dude I got so many trophies from cookoffs, bowling, archery, and Billiards I sometimes debate throwing them all away and starting over. Good catch though I didn't even notice it
 
RangerJ said:
Well in the military we called it Situational Awareness... Pontification about "salad" in a box and sauce covering up the Q on a 95% KCBS board would demonstrate a lack of it.

Well, asking Craig if he has any Major GC's does that as well also. Especially as he's on his way to the Royal where I do believe he is in the Invitational.
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we got our invitational papers also,just declined after we figured we would spend over $1k in gas, and they wanted like another $1k to upgrade our spot to hold our RV. We considered it, now we are not. We have no sponsors like Pitmaker and texas pepper jellies do to go to an event and cook All that food and give it all away. I go there to cook my food, take a walk of fame or take the walk of shame. Done plenty of both.
 
So...this thread has been derailed to Crazy Town; back to the OP's point, obviously smoke rings and garnish enter into the score with some judges, even if it's just at a subconscious level, as was so eloquently stated by Brother Landarc.

BTW - nice first post PP21! You may have started a Texas civil war :biggrin1:
 
jmoney7269 said:
And any of to that think that you have the right to judge down on a smoke ring when your directed not to judge on at all to begin with, you definitely need some
Re education on morals also. Teams spend $1000's on cookoffs. Don't cost you a thing to judge
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Who and what bbq org says to ignore a smoke ring or no smoke ring? Like I've said BEFORE, Tx. gulf coast and IBCA don't even mention it. The only thing on appearance they say is "Does it look appealing, BBQ you want to eat?" A fake looking smoke ring that overshadows the overall appearance is not very appetizing IMO. But if your chit is good then you have nothing to worry about (re-read what I've already posted) and why focus on a smoke ring anyway? You keep saying judges are told to ignore it anyway. Don't get pissed, just keep doing what you are doing, most judges don't know you can fake a smoke ring.
 
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