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08-24-2011, 02:30 PM | #1 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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People's Choice in Oklahoma...
Here's a Health Department oddity for you. The HD regulations say that if you charge money (even indirectly) for people TO EAT FOOD, the full force of the HD regulations go into effect. The "cooking area", including your pit or pits MUST have a cover and be screened on all sides, your pass-through for serving must be screened. You must have the triple sink and a hand-washing sink,etc.
BUT If you DO NOT CHARGE for eating the food, NO REGULATIONS APPLY!!!! Non-mandatory donations to a charitable cause are not considered charging for food. So this leaves me with the People's Choice for Smokin' Up A Storm as a donation only event. If I chose to do it this way, the serving and judging will be done inside a meeting hall and will be blind judging.
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08-24-2011, 02:38 PM | #2 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 01-16-11
Location: Ponca City, OK
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Charge for a "tasting kit" not for the food...
Already have the Norman comp on my calendar... Nordy |
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08-24-2011, 02:43 PM | #3 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 07-14-09
Location: Lake Sinclair, GA
Name/Nickname : Hance
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Can you charge a small/nominal entry fee to the gate and give them a ticket for peoples choice vote?
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Hance - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook Lake Sinclair, GA (strategically about an hour from darn near anywhere) My competition daze are probably behind me now; I pretty much cook for family, friends, and frankly the peace and solitude I get from smokin' on an offset... Was Lang 84DX, now Bubba Grills 250R and many Weber grills |
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08-24-2011, 04:51 PM | #4 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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I approached it several ways and basically any sort of entry fee or "tasting kit", "judging kit" that involves them having to pay for it in order to taste the q... is "vending" Only voluntary donations gets you out from under the regs. I think I can make it work as a "free" tasting/judging, I will have the full support of the Food Bank for signage & volunteer "docents" to encourage people to give.
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08-24-2011, 06:23 PM | #5 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 09-24-06
Location: Tulsa, OK
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There are plenty of contests in OK that do people's choice without any issues. I wouldn't try to re-invent the wheel. Talk to some other organizers who do it and find out what they do. The KCBS website would be a good place to start, or send me a PM and I can give you some contact names/numbers.
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08-24-2011, 08:54 PM | #6 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 05-09-10
Location: Olathe Kansas
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norman oklahoma...whats the dates? kcbs?
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08-24-2011, 10:27 PM | #7 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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1st Annual Smokin'
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08-25-2011, 07:51 AM | #8 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 10-28-08
Location: Yukon, Oklahoma
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You should get into contact with the people who put on the Edmond contest this year. The health department was there but only checked on vendors - not teams doing tasters choice.
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08-25-2011, 12:48 PM | #9 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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Besides, I really want to stay fully within the law so that there can be NO chance the HD will be able to shut us down. I'll check with them to see how they did it. Thanks!
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08-30-2011, 06:22 AM | #10 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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This article illustrates why I must find a legal way to do a People's Choice.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-stat...adlines_widget
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08-30-2011, 06:41 AM | #11 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-03-07
Location: Chandler,OK
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With all the folks that are paid to do tail gating in Norman ( and there are several that are business and some are bbq competitors) the laws are simpler than you may think. Go to Norman this weekend and look up some of those owners and ask. Look for a long black enclosed trailer.
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08-30-2011, 11:16 AM | #12 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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08-30-2011, 05:57 PM | #13 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 02-03-06
Location: tulsa oklahoma
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I agree with David and Mike. These things are done all over the state. Basically people buy a frisbee or a plate from your non profit, and teams give away sample quanities(of pork or brisket you provide).
Aren't Cleveland County food inspections handled by the state? OKC has their own inspectors. I'm pretty sure Tulsa and Muskogee are the only two counties that do as well. I think the rest are handled by the state.
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08-30-2011, 06:56 PM | #14 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-19-11
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
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08-30-2011, 06:57 PM | #15 | |
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