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Old 03-10-2012, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default NKC MO State Championship BBQ North Kansas City, MO

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Grand Champion: Sweet Beaver BBQ
Reserve Champion: Smokin R's

Overall:
1. Sweet Beaver BBQ - 688.0000
2. Smokin R's - 682.8570
3. Truebud BBQ - 680.5714
4. Dodge County Smokers - 677.1428
5. Burnt Finger BBQ - 675.9996
6. Gilly's BBQ - 673.7142
7. Smokin Guns - 672.5712
8. Dirty Pig BBQ - 671.4278
9. Buffalos BBQ - 670.8568
10. Pellet Envy - 668.5714
11. KC Can Crew - 666.8574
12. Gremlin Grill - 666.8574
13. Bingo Pete's BBQ - 666.8572
14. The Natty Shack - 666.2856
15. Smokin Suzy - 665.7142
16. Ponderosa BBQ - 663.4278
17. Masterque - 662.2850
18. Hardway Barbecue - 660.5712
19. The Smoking Hills - 657.7140
20. Lucky's Q - 656.5710
21. Cattle Creek BBQ - 656.0000
22. Midwest Scuba Que - 654.8576
23. Wicked Pig - 654.8568
24. Big O's BBQ - 653.7142
25. Grillas BBQ Team - 653.1424
26. Wabash BBQ - 652.5716
27. Grauers Hogwash - 652.5712
28. Boyle's Famous Corned Be - 651.9996
29. Hogs on the Run - 648.0002
30. Jay Willies Whiskey Pit - 647.4284
31. 4 Smokin Butts - 647.4284
32. Blues Hog - 646.2846
33. Nickle Boys BBQ - 643.9994
34. Smokin' Tailgators - 643.4286
35. Smokers Purgatory - 642.8572
36. Last Supper - 642.8570
37. Jaestar BBQ - 642.8566
38. Mr. Bibs - 640.5706
39. QSS Smokin' - 637.1422
40. Smoke Me Tender BBQ - 636.5716
41. Rum, Chum & BBQ - 636.5714
42. Hang Em High - 636.5710
43. Worth Hollar'N - 636.0002
44. Fire Crew BBQ - 635.9998
45. KC Smoke Dawgs - 634.8570
46. Big Bad Dad BBQ - 633.7142
47. B N L Que - 633.7142
48. Smokaholics - 633.7138
49. Pay It Forward - 632.5712
50. Lil Smokers BBQ Team - 632.0000
51. Old Style BBQ - 631.9998
52. FUBAR-B-Q - 631.9996
53. Pig Newton - 631.9994
54. Joe's A Smokin' - 630.2856
55. Yard Time BBQ - 630.2852
56. Red Mistress BBQ - 630.2850
57. Pure Smoke - 629.7142
58. Snail Slow Smokin' - 628.5712
59. BBQweiser - 628.0000
60. L & C Smokin BBQ - 627.4286
61. Y-We-Q - 626.8568
62. Sons of a Brisket - 626.2856
63. Belly Bustin' Good BBQ - 625.7150
64. Pork N Sump N - 625.1438
65. Mel's BBQ - 621.1428
66. Ikonic BBQ - 620.5710
67. Smokin Wolfs - 619.4286
68. Ferris Quehler's Day Off - 619.4280
69. 2-Sons & The Big Guy BBQ - 618.8572
70. Moolicious Intentions - 617.7138
71. Big Butt BBQ - 613.7142
72. Flower of the Flames - 613.1428
73. The Q Crew - 611.9994
74. Still Smoking BBQ - 611.4286
75. Pull My Pork - 610.8572
76. Big Bros Que - 609.7140
77. Naked Sauced & Que'N - 609.1424
78. Big E's BBQ - 607.4282
79. Smoketacular - 606.2858
80. Rock N Roll Rib Rubbers - 602.8568
81. Pig in a Poke - 599.4284
82. Water Dawgz BBQ - 598.2860
83. Turn 2 Pit Crew - 592.5718
84. Hog Stylin - 592.5712
85. FOF BBQ - 589.1428
86. Bushwhackers - 587.9998
87. Blind Ass Drunk BBQ - 586.8568
88. Lucky Helmet Barbecue - 573.1430
89. Uncle Bo's BBQ - 559.9996
90. Dotte Boyz Barbecue - 554.2858
91. Chillin & Grillin - 545.7144
92. MoKan Meatheads - 509.7142
93. Wolfpack BBQ - 477.7144


Chicken:
1. Dodge County Smokers - 179.4286
2. Wabash BBQ - 177.7144
3. Gilly's BBQ - 177.7142
4. Smokin R's - 174.8572
5. Big O's BBQ - 174.2858
6. Truebud BBQ - 173.7142
7. Wicked Pig - 173.1428
8. Hardway Barbecue - 173.1428
9. KC Can Crew - 172.0000
10. Masterque - 172.0000
11. The Natty Shack - 170.8572
12. Belly Bustin' Good BBQ - 170.8572
13. The Smoking Hills - 170.8570
14. Burnt Finger BBQ - 170.2858
15. Ponderosa BBQ - 170.2856
16. Midwest Scuba Que - 169.7144
17. Sweet Beaver BBQ - 168.5714
18. Cattle Creek BBQ - 168.5714
19. Rum, Chum & BBQ - 167.4286
20. Lil Smokers BBQ Team - 167.4286
21. Boyle's Famous Corned Be - 166.8570
22. Bingo Pete's BBQ - 166.2858
23. Smokin Guns - 166.2856
24. Buffalos BBQ - 165.7142
25. Smoketacular - 165.7142
26. L & C Smokin BBQ - 164.5714
27. Gremlin Grill - 164.5714
28. Smokin Suzy - 164.0002
29. Dirty Pig BBQ - 163.9998
30. Pellet Envy - 163.4286
31. Flower of the Flames - 162.8574
32. 4 Smokin Butts - 162.8572
33. Grillas BBQ Team - 162.8572
34. Last Supper - 162.8570
35. Pork N Sump N - 162.2858
36. Grauers Hogwash - 162.2858
37. Lucky's Q - 161.1428
38. Pay It Forward - 161.1428
39. Hang Em High - 161.1424
40. FUBAR-B-Q - 160.5714
41. Hogs on the Run - 160.5714
42. Ikonic BBQ - 160.5712
43. Nickle Boys BBQ - 160.0002
44. Joe's A Smokin' - 160.0000
45. Smokers Purgatory - 159.4288
46. Big Bad Dad BBQ - 159.4282
47. Mel's BBQ - 158.8572
48. Wolfpack BBQ - 158.8572
49. Turn 2 Pit Crew - 158.2860
50. Sons of a Brisket - 158.2858
51. Fire Crew BBQ - 158.2856
52. BBQweiser - 157.7142
53. Jay Willies Whiskey Pit - 157.7142
54. KC Smoke Dawgs - 157.7140
55. Blues Hog - 157.7140
56. Old Style BBQ - 156.5714
57. Naked Sauced & Que'N - 156.5712
58. Big Bros Que - 156.0000
59. Ferris Quehler's Day Off - 155.9998
60. Smokin' Tailgators - 155.4286
61. Pig in a Poke - 155.4286
62. Moolicious Intentions - 155.4284
63. Worth Hollar'N - 154.8574
64. Dotte Boyz Barbecue - 154.8572
65. Jaestar BBQ - 154.2856
66. Red Mistress BBQ - 154.2856
67. Y-We-Q - 153.7142
68. Mr. Bibs - 153.1428
69. Yard Time BBQ - 152.5712
70. Bushwhackers - 152.0002
71. Pure Smoke - 152.0000
72. Hog Stylin - 151.9996
73. B N L Que - 151.4284
74. Water Dawgz BBQ - 150.8572
75. Smokaholics - 150.8570
76. Lucky Helmet Barbecue - 150.8570
77. The Q Crew - 150.2854
78. Big E's BBQ - 149.7144
79. FOF BBQ - 148.0000
80. Smokin Wolfs - 148.0000
81. Smoke Me Tender BBQ - 147.4286
82. Rock N Roll Rib Rubbers - 146.8570
83. Blind Ass Drunk BBQ - 146.8570
84. QSS Smokin' - 146.2854
85. Uncle Bo's BBQ - 145.7144
86. 2-Sons & The Big Guy BBQ - 145.7142
87. Pull My Pork - 143.4286
88. Big Butt BBQ - 142.2858
89. Snail Slow Smokin' - 142.2856
90. Pig Newton - 139.9998
91. Still Smoking BBQ - 138.2856
92. Chillin & Grillin - 120.5714
93. MoKan Meatheads - 20.0000


Ribs:
1. Burnt Finger BBQ - 179.4286
2. Dirty Pig BBQ - 176.0000
3. Bingo Pete's BBQ - 176.0000
4. Sweet Beaver BBQ - 173.1428
5. Old Style BBQ - 172.5716
6. Pellet Envy - 172.0002
7. 4 Smokin Butts - 170.8572
8. Smokin R's - 170.2858
9. Truebud BBQ - 170.2858
10. Buffalos BBQ - 170.2858
11. Hogs on the Run - 169.1430
12. Ponderosa BBQ - 169.1428
13. Still Smoking BBQ - 169.1428
14. Smokers Purgatory - 168.5714
15. 2-Sons & The Big Guy BBQ - 168.0004
16. Snail Slow Smokin' - 168.0000
17. MoKan Meatheads - 168.0000
18. Lucky's Q - 168.0000
19. Jaestar BBQ - 167.9998
20. Mr. Bibs - 167.9998
21. Gremlin Grill - 166.8572
22. Midwest Scuba Que - 166.2858
23. Smokin Suzy - 166.2858
24. Jay Willies Whiskey Pit - 166.2856
25. FUBAR-B-Q - 166.2856
26. QSS Smokin' - 165.7142
27. KC Can Crew - 165.1432
28. Boyle's Famous Corned Be - 165.1428
29. B N L Que - 165.1428
30. Hardway Barbecue - 165.1428
31. Nickle Boys BBQ - 164.5712
32. The Natty Shack - 164.0000
33. Smokaholics - 163.9998
34. Dodge County Smokers - 163.4286
35. Smokin Guns - 162.8572
36. Gilly's BBQ - 162.8572
37. Pull My Pork - 162.2858
38. Smokin' Tailgators - 161.7142
39. Pure Smoke - 160.5714
40. Fire Crew BBQ - 160.0000
41. Mel's BBQ - 160.0000
42. Grauers Hogwash - 160.0000
43. Masterque - 159.9998
44. Red Mistress BBQ - 159.9998
45. Wabash BBQ - 159.4286
46. Blues Hog - 159.4282
47. Moolicious Intentions - 158.8572
48. Big Butt BBQ - 158.8570
49. Last Supper - 158.8570
50. L & C Smokin BBQ - 158.2858
51. Smoke Me Tender BBQ - 158.2858
52. Pig Newton - 158.2856
53. Belly Bustin' Good BBQ - 157.7146
54. Cattle Creek BBQ - 157.1430
55. Lucky Helmet Barbecue - 156.5716
56. Y-We-Q - 156.5714
57. Joe's A Smokin' - 156.0000
58. Big Bad Dad BBQ - 155.4286
59. Pay It Forward - 155.4286
60. Grillas BBQ Team - 155.4284
61. Smokin Wolfs - 154.8572
62. BBQweiser - 154.8572
63. Rum, Chum & BBQ - 154.2856
64. Worth Hollar'N - 153.7144
65. Pig in a Poke - 153.1428
66. Hang Em High - 152.5714
67. The Q Crew - 152.5712
68. Water Dawgz BBQ - 152.0000
69. Yard Time BBQ - 151.4284
70. Wicked Pig - 150.8570
71. Ferris Quehler's Day Off - 150.2852
72. The Smoking Hills - 149.7142
73. Sons of a Brisket - 149.7142
74. Blind Ass Drunk BBQ - 149.7142
75. Big O's BBQ - 149.1430
76. KC Smoke Dawgs - 148.5714
77. Hog Stylin - 148.0002
78. Ikonic BBQ - 148.0000
79. Rock N Roll Rib Rubbers - 148.0000
80. FOF BBQ - 147.4286
81. Big Bros Que - 147.4286
82. Pork N Sump N - 146.8582
83. Big E's BBQ - 146.8568
84. Smoketacular - 145.7144
85. Turn 2 Pit Crew - 145.7142
86. Uncle Bo's BBQ - 143.9996
87. Bushwhackers - 143.4284
88. Lil Smokers BBQ Team - 142.2858
89. Naked Sauced & Que'N - 140.0000
90. Flower of the Flames - 138.8568
91. Chillin & Grillin - 136.5712
92. Dotte Boyz Barbecue - 134.8572
93. Wolfpack BBQ - 0.0000


Pork:
1. Sweet Beaver BBQ - 176.5714
2. KC Smoke Dawgs - 176.0002
3. The Natty Shack - 174.8572
4. Grauers Hogwash - 172.5714
5. Hang Em High - 172.0002
6. Dodge County Smokers - 172.0000
7. Gremlin Grill - 171.4286
8. Smokin Guns - 171.4284
9. Pure Smoke - 170.8572
10. Bingo Pete's BBQ - 170.2858
11. Dirty Pig BBQ - 170.2854
12. Truebud BBQ - 169.1428
13. Buffalos BBQ - 169.1426
14. KC Can Crew - 168.5714
15. Smokin R's - 168.5712
16. Worth Hollar'N - 167.4286
17. Smoke Me Tender BBQ - 167.4286
18. Mr. Bibs - 167.4284
19. Gilly's BBQ - 167.4284
20. Ponderosa BBQ - 167.4284
21. Pellet Envy - 167.4284
22. Snail Slow Smokin' - 166.8572
23. Rum, Chum & BBQ - 166.8572
24. Pork N Sump N - 166.8570
25. Wabash BBQ - 165.1430
26. MoKan Meatheads - 165.1428
27. Smokin' Tailgators - 165.1428
28. Jaestar BBQ - 165.1428
29. Masterque - 165.1426
30. Smokin Suzy - 165.1426
31. The Smoking Hills - 165.1426
32. QSS Smokin' - 164.5714
33. Grillas BBQ Team - 164.5712
34. Lucky's Q - 164.5712
35. Blues Hog - 164.5712
36. Flower of the Flames - 164.0000
37. Pig Newton - 163.9998
38. Wicked Pig - 163.4284
39. Big O's BBQ - 163.4284
40. Ikonic BBQ - 161.7144
41. Hogs on the Run - 161.7142
42. Sons of a Brisket - 161.1428
43. Smokin Wolfs - 160.5716
44. Yard Time BBQ - 160.0000
45. Ferris Quehler's Day Off - 160.0000
46. BBQweiser - 160.0000
47. Joe's A Smokin' - 159.9998
48. Nickle Boys BBQ - 159.9996
49. Big Bad Dad BBQ - 158.8574
50. Smokaholics - 158.8572
51. Big E's BBQ - 158.8572
52. Last Supper - 158.2858
53. Hardway Barbecue - 158.2856
54. Burnt Finger BBQ - 158.2856
55. 4 Smokin Butts - 157.7142
56. Cattle Creek BBQ - 157.7142
57. Jay Willies Whiskey Pit - 156.5714
58. Y-We-Q - 156.5712
59. Red Mistress BBQ - 156.5710
60. Boyle's Famous Corned Be - 156.0000
61. Midwest Scuba Que - 156.0000
62. Big Butt BBQ - 156.0000
63. L & C Smokin BBQ - 155.4286
64. Pull My Pork - 155.4286
65. FUBAR-B-Q - 155.4284
66. Old Style BBQ - 154.8570
67. Turn 2 Pit Crew - 154.2858
68. FOF BBQ - 154.2856
69. Belly Bustin' Good BBQ - 153.7144
70. B N L Que - 153.7144
71. Pig in a Poke - 153.7142
72. Big Bros Que - 153.1428
73. Fire Crew BBQ - 153.1428
74. Bushwhackers - 153.1426
75. Moolicious Intentions - 153.1426
76. Pay It Forward - 152.5714
77. Wolfpack BBQ - 152.0000
78. 2-Sons & The Big Guy BBQ - 152.0000
79. Lil Smokers BBQ Team - 151.4284
80. Smokers Purgatory - 150.2856
81. Rock N Roll Rib Rubbers - 149.7142
82. Naked Sauced & Que'N - 149.1426
83. Still Smoking BBQ - 148.5714
84. The Q Crew - 148.0000
85. Smoketacular - 148.0000
86. Water Dawgz BBQ - 148.0000
87. Mel's BBQ - 147.4284
88. Chillin & Grillin - 146.2860
89. Hog Stylin - 145.1428
90. Lucky Helmet Barbecue - 142.2858
91. Blind Ass Drunk BBQ - 141.7142
92. Uncle Bo's BBQ - 138.8572
93. Dotte Boyz Barbecue - 127.4286


Brisket:
1. Cattle Creek BBQ - 172.5714
2. The Smoking Hills - 172.0002
3. Smokin Guns - 172.0000
4. Lil Smokers BBQ Team - 170.8572
5. Smokin Suzy - 170.2856
6. Grillas BBQ Team - 170.2856
7. Sweet Beaver BBQ - 169.7144
8. Pig Newton - 169.7142
9. Smokin R's - 169.1428
10. Burnt Finger BBQ - 167.9996
11. Truebud BBQ - 167.4286
12. Wicked Pig - 167.4286
13. Wolfpack BBQ - 166.8572
14. Jay Willies Whiskey Pit - 166.8572
15. Big O's BBQ - 166.8570
16. Yard Time BBQ - 166.2856
17. Gilly's BBQ - 165.7144
18. Buffalos BBQ - 165.7142
19. Pellet Envy - 165.7142
20. Masterque - 165.1426
21. Fire Crew BBQ - 164.5714
22. Smokers Purgatory - 164.5714
23. Blues Hog - 164.5712
24. Gremlin Grill - 164.0002
25. Hardway Barbecue - 164.0000
26. Boyle's Famous Corned Be - 163.9998
27. B N L Que - 163.4286
28. Naked Sauced & Que'N - 163.4286
29. Smoke Me Tender BBQ - 163.4286
30. Pay It Forward - 163.4284
31. Midwest Scuba Que - 162.8574
32. Last Supper - 162.8572
33. Lucky's Q - 162.8570
34. Dodge County Smokers - 162.2856
35. Smokin' Tailgators - 161.1430
36. The Q Crew - 161.1428
37. KC Can Crew - 161.1428
38. Dirty Pig BBQ - 161.1426
39. QSS Smokin' - 160.5712
40. Big Bad Dad BBQ - 160.0000
41. Y-We-Q - 160.0000
42. Smokaholics - 159.9998
43. Worth Hollar'N - 159.9998
44. Red Mistress BBQ - 159.4286
45. Nickle Boys BBQ - 159.4284
46. Rock N Roll Rib Rubbers - 158.2856
47. Grauers Hogwash - 157.7140
48. Sons of a Brisket - 157.1428
49. Hogs on the Run - 156.5716
50. Big Butt BBQ - 156.5714
51. MoKan Meatheads - 156.5714
52. The Natty Shack - 156.5712
53. Ponderosa BBQ - 156.5710
54. Smokin Wolfs - 155.9998
55. 4 Smokin Butts - 155.9998
56. Still Smoking BBQ - 155.4288
57. BBQweiser - 155.4286
58. Jaestar BBQ - 155.4284
59. Mel's BBQ - 154.8572
60. Joe's A Smokin' - 154.2858
61. Bingo Pete's BBQ - 154.2856
62. Ferris Quehler's Day Off - 153.1430
63. Big Bros Que - 153.1426
64. 2-Sons & The Big Guy BBQ - 153.1426
65. KC Smoke Dawgs - 152.5714
66. Big E's BBQ - 151.9998
67. Mr. Bibs - 151.9996
68. Snail Slow Smokin' - 151.4284
69. Hang Em High - 150.8570
70. Moolicious Intentions - 150.2856
71. Wabash BBQ - 150.2856
72. Ikonic BBQ - 150.2854
73. Pull My Pork - 149.7142
74. FUBAR-B-Q - 149.7142
75. L & C Smokin BBQ - 149.1428
76. Pork N Sump N - 149.1428
77. Blind Ass Drunk BBQ - 148.5714
78. Rum, Chum & BBQ - 148.0000
79. Old Style BBQ - 147.9998
80. Water Dawgz BBQ - 147.4288
81. Hog Stylin - 147.4286
82. Flower of the Flames - 147.4286
83. Smoketacular - 146.8572
84. Pure Smoke - 146.2856
85. Belly Bustin' Good BBQ - 143.4288
86. Chillin & Grillin - 142.2858
87. Bushwhackers - 139.4286
88. FOF BBQ - 139.4286
89. Pig in a Poke - 137.1428
90. Dotte Boyz Barbecue - 137.1428
91. Turn 2 Pit Crew - 134.2858
92. Uncle Bo's BBQ - 131.4284
93. Lucky Helmet Barbecue - 123.4286
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How was the organization of the contest this year? Did they fix the problems that have been cited in previous threads? keith
Absolutly not, The organizer couldn't have been any nicer or the reps, but the mis-information or down right lies when the awards were still very apparent.

Positives: They had plenty of porta-potties. Said they were going to clean them at dark 30 so have a path cleared for them. Had a water guy on tractor delivering water this year, ice, and trash pickup came to our sites.

At the cooks meeting, they stated that they had a cbj class on Thursday night and were expecting to have 85-90% cbj.

Awards where scheduled to start at 5:00 and then at 5:30 the reps said they were having issues with the KCBS system since KCBS was updating their software. Then about half way through the awards they said they had our personal score sheets but their printer broke and the overall score sheets were going to be 30-45 minutes late.

My sister in law Sherri went to ask when the sheets would be ready, and there were 5 other teams wondering the same thing. She overheard the rep say "so your five minutes out" while he was on his cell phone. The reps wife came over to him as he got off the phone and said sombody was wanting to talk to him, and he walked away without giving any info to Sherri. She piped up and said that there were a number of teams wanting a answer on the sheets and he walked away. The rep's wife said the sheets are coming from Front Street and the guy didn't have a cell phone. (REALLY?) Sherri stated they should have a backup printer since they have had the same issue 2 out of the 3 years. Rep was like oh I didn't realize we have had this problem before. Sherri said you would think you would remember all of your past "glitches" or maybe it's because you have so many you can't. lol

The porta-potties next to us were never cleaned and were accesable. The printer problems were the same as 3 years ago. Why does KCBS system update on a saturday and not let's say 2:00 am on like a wednesday? Sunday on KCBS website I noticed CBJ was 40%.

I am not saying we should have deserved a better score than we got. But our food turns out the same every contest. We haven't seen 6's on our sheet since we started and we had 6 of them. I haven't been hurt by low CBJ % before, but with all the "cover up's", how do I know that my food was judged accordingly. I will now pay closer attention to % as most of you do.

I am not trying to take away from how the contest ended up Congrats to all who heard their name and congrats to Sweet Beaver for their first GC in such a big field.
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:17 AM   #13
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How was the organization of the contest this year? Did they fix the problems that have been cited in previous threads? keith
I thought it was better than last year, computer problems happen, I got my individual scores and that is all I was after.
The scoring was low for me also
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we waited an hour for ours,they never came....got text from rep at9;44 said jay had sheets and would be mailed to us ..we got several 6 s also,funny several judges gave us 9s on taste and tenderness,then a pair of 6s on same product....we were told it should be 90-97% cbj just courious what it was
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we were told it should be 90-97% cbj just courious what it was
KCBS website had it at 40%
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