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Old 05-01-2013, 07:43 AM   #16
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My OKJ is not one of the better built, original OKJ units. It's not the newest, thinnest, cheapest one like you see most places now, but it's still a thinner steel unit. It doesn't seal up well, it doesn't hold heat very well, it's just lacking it build quality vs the Yoders.

Don't get me wrong, mine has served me well and was a great first pit, but as with anything, the more experienced you get, you understand why some things are cheaper and why the thicker, more expensive units are better.

I have a convection plate in mine with other mods and they help out quite a bit, but the HMS in the Yoders is a nice system and it's constructed very well. Plus I need a larger pit for competing.
ok I see. Mine is only a few months old but I think its great after doing some simple mods.

Sorry I did not mean to hijack, I will stay out of this. I am just interested in one of these also someday
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:20 AM   #17
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ok I see. Mine is only a few months old but I think its great after doing some simple mods.

Sorry I did not mean to hijack, I will stay out of this. I am just interested in one of these also someday
Not hijacking at all, I think its good to talk about what everyone else has learned with some of the cheaper pits too. I looked at them when I first started looking but soon realized why they are cheaper than the yoders. For some people they work great with a few mods but for me I want one that will last many years as I tell my wife this should be the last we buy, haha doubt that is true though. I also want the thicker gauge walls because I need the heat retention when smoking in the winter.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:49 AM   #18
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Not hijacking at all, I think its good to talk about what everyone else has learned with some of the cheaper pits too. I looked at them when I first started looking but soon realized why they are cheaper than the yoders. For some people they work great with a few mods but for me I want one that will last many years as I tell my wife this should be the last we buy, haha doubt that is true though. I also want the thicker gauge walls because I need the heat retention when smoking in the winter.
I live in Michigan and bought this on Super Bowl Sunday. I have used it in the snow and it works real well. I have pics of it with snow piled around it and running at 275 burning 1 stick every 30-45 mins or so.

But I sure would like a nicer one. Just cant justify it with how well mine works.


I wish Lang was closer to me, I really like the 36 patio. it would be perfect for me.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:52 AM   #19
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I see on the Yoder website that the Loaded Wichita and the kingman come with a heat managment plate. Is this just the plate and the adjustable dampener extra?

If it is extra what are the atvantages of the having the dampener in addition to the plate and the plate alone?
The adjustable damper on the Wichita is going to be extra (though not by a lot, I can PM you a price if you'd like). The big advantage is the ability to adjust the temp to be even across the pit, or hot at one end or the other. It's just very versatile.

The Wichita I cook on (Serial #1) does not have the HMS or damper. Though it cooks great, if I want to do larger cooks with a loaded pit, I roll out a Kingman with all of the options. It's just so much easier to be precise and control the heat with the HMS and damper.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:02 AM   #20
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Does Yoder have a dealer network?
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #21
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They have a dealer finder on there website but sadly it doesnt seem there are any up north close to us.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:40 AM   #22
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They have a dealer finder on there website but sadly it doesnt seem there are any up north close to us.
thanks I did see that now

We are pretty deprived of smoker makers here in the Northern Tier
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:45 AM   #23
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Yes we are, I know there is one here in Minnesota but they make cabinet style that will not fit my style of what I am trying to do.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:22 AM   #24
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Late to the party...but I have a loaded Wichita and love it. Easy to manage heat, and plenty of space for small- to medium- size parties.

Temp is not even across the chamber (25-50 degrees different)...but this just means I can cook chicken and pork at the same time.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:36 AM   #25
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Melt In the Sun do you have the plate in the bottom to help even the heat out? When you say small to medium parties how many people are you talking?
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:02 PM   #26
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I do have the plate.

By small-med I mean not 100 people...though you probably could cook 100 people worth of butts on it if you switched them around a little to deal with the hot side. I typically cook a few racks of ribs and a bunch of chicken legs, with lots of room to spare.
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Old 05-01-2013, 04:58 PM   #27
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Are you burning splits or using a charcoal basket and burning lump? If you are using just splits how is temp control and how often do you add another split?
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:56 PM   #28
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Splits only...charcoal to start the fire, maybe. A split or so an hour, but I'm not in Minnesota! This time of year, the cooker is at 150 without a fire...
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:00 PM   #29
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I hope to run splits only also since I have access to alot of oak in the area.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:12 PM   #30
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Their shipping rates are fantastic last time I asked (About 100 dollars to my door in Memphis for the Cheyenne). Been a year or so ago though.
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