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01-04-2013, 10:47 PM | #1 |
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Help Me Build an Old School BBQ Pit!
I was in such awe when I visited Lockhart, TX and Lexington, TX, I didn't really take a good look at how the great, old school pits at those places are constructed. So, brethren, I am asking you all to help me build an old school pit in my backyard. Here are some pics of what I have in mind. The 1st one is of Scott's BBQ in South Carolina. The 2nd one is one of the pits at Smitty's in Lockhart, TX.
I can't promise you a timeline, but I will update the post as the build progresses. This has been a dream of mine for a while and I think one of these pits will be the closest I can ever come to a real, old school Southern BBQ pit short of digging a hole in the ground. But, the hole in the ground thing is not exactly the most healthy thing nowadays plus I will have to deal with it filling up with water. So, building a pit like the ones at Scott's and Smitty's is a great compromise. I want a pit that I can cook BBQ on directly over coals just like in the pics I posted. That, to me, is the essence of real, American, old school BBQ. Any brethren have any blueprints or suggestions?
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01-04-2013, 10:59 PM | #2 |
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No help or suggestions here, but I'm right there with ya on that - having a pit like that is definitely on the bucket list. I'll be watching this thread with a great deal of interest. And as for the hole in the ground thing - that's something I really wanna do too. I think I'm evolving backwards.
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01-04-2013, 11:25 PM | #3 |
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Bo , Check out The Book "Holy smoke the big book of NC BBQ " It does not really give plans to build a traditional pit . It has good info on Old school BBQ . Especially the chapter on Ed Mitchell out of Wilson NC...
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01-04-2013, 11:41 PM | #4 |
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I have a copy of that book and will check it out. Thanks!
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01-04-2013, 11:42 PM | #5 |
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I have a great photo book called "Texas BBQ" that has some of those pits in it. Great pix in that book.
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01-04-2013, 11:44 PM | #6 |
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I too have thought this idea over and my thoughts were to build the structure from congrete block then line with fire brick. Leaving a hole in the front big enough to shovel coals into it and using corrugated metal sheets to cover the top and the opening in the side. And have a grate made or make a grate for it.
http://vimeo.com/9923940 This is a real good watch if you havent seen it.
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01-04-2013, 11:46 PM | #7 |
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I have had the same thought. I didn't measure the pit at Smitty's, but it looked to be about 4' wide and 4 foot high. The key to it working is the 4' square smoke stack at the intersection of the two pits, which protrudes through the roof. This creates a good draft.
Kreuz's has a metal top protruding over the end of the firebox which seems to diminish the amount of smoke that escapes. I noticed that the section nearest the fire is too hot to use, but is necessary to the length calculation. Kreuz's pits are much longer than those at Smitty's so there is more cooking area.
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01-05-2013, 08:11 AM | #8 |
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The pit at Scotts is fueled by burnt down logs or pure embers.
The pit at Smittys is actually cooking with heat and smoke from burning logs. 2 different styles of cooking.
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01-05-2013, 08:50 AM | #9 |
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Yep, the one I want to build will have capability for both styles.
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01-05-2013, 09:40 AM | #10 |
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Carolina style pits are normally shovel fed the ones in CenTex are more like an off set design it is pretty easy think of a Fireplace and chimney laying on the ground instead of brick/block on the upper face of the chimney it is a Metal cap.
These two videos will give you some Ideas
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01-05-2013, 12:11 PM | #11 |
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I'm thinking something along the lines of the pit that inspired the artist that drew this political cartoon from around 1830. I think it should be pretty easy to have access in the center for spreading coals and an opening on the end for a fire to cook Texas style.
I want it to have a brick veneer but I'm not sure how to build the floor or the sides. I figure a metal lid and doors could be made for the side and end fire access so they can be closed while cooking or when not being used.
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01-05-2013, 12:13 PM | #12 |
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here is what i have drawn up for mine..
cheap and it works great.. make it a we bit bigger and put fire to the side. or even a side box that looks like tha main box but smaller
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01-05-2013, 12:38 PM | #13 |
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You need to dig the base out 12" deep pack the bottom with sand to 4" lay down some wire mesh( old cattle panels work good ) fill with concrete to a deph of 6", let it set for a week. Lay down fireplace mortar and top the slab with fire brick then start up the walls two bricks wide. frame the openings with 3" angle iron an put "T" channel in around the perimeter at grate height, go up 2 more rows and add a top cap. The lid can be made from 11ga. with a counter weight system.
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01-05-2013, 01:21 PM | #14 | |
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Smittys does not cook over coals so that one is out.
Look at this.... Quote:
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01-05-2013, 01:25 PM | #15 |
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IF YOU DO WHAT TO BUILD THE SUPERIOR AND BETTER RUNNING OLD KREUZ PIT (Joke) then contact againstthegrain. He runs a pit similar to them in Galveston and either he or I could take plenty of pictures for you.
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