Scottie
Quintessential Chatty Farker
I am secure enough in my cooking, that if I have to be the face of this ridiculous rule. So be it.
My take on the Pork Rule
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I am secure enough in my cooking, that if I have to be the face of this ridiculous rule. So be it.
Smoke'n Ice
is one Smokin' Farker
This new rule excites me because next year I can legally remove the money muscle after inspection and cook it separately and still freeze the remainder of the butt and use it in my restaurant for cubanos, country style ribs and grind it up for breakfast sausage, it’ll reduce some of my comp cost. MM makes wonderful pulled, chunked and sliced pork turn in. How do I know, when I miss the temp, I just use it for the other items else turn it in sliced.
Meat Man
Full Fledged Farker
Like it or not it makes for some really good BBQ!
Horn meat on the left, MM on the right, and tubes.
Horn meat on the left, MM on the right, and tubes.
boogiesnap
Babbling Farker
oh boy.
that's some nice looking pork btw. horn might look a tad dry.
that's some nice looking pork btw. horn might look a tad dry.
Lake Dogs
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Yep, makes a great presentation, and good eatin' pork it is, but in this southern old timers' opinion, it's not BBQ... KCBS apparently will now allow it, and now it falls right in line with my opinion of KCBS's chicken.
Good eats; you bet. Takes good cooks; sure. BBQ; not. Next; ribeye steaks perhaps?
sdbbq1234
is Blowin Smoke!
Nothing against MeatMan (very nice butchering) but I don't think that looks good, at all. I would be hard pressed to have that served to me at a BBQ joint. That is not BBQ Pork IMHO.
It might taste like the best stuff on earth, but it ain't BBQ Pork.
That presented against a box of pulled pork, well, the pulled would most likely win.
After reading all the posts, I wonder how the folks that win ever got by not being able to separate. :mmph:
Don't change the dam rule. Heck, go backwards and make it more simple by saying "pulled pork". Get rid of the MM all together or pull it!
FLAME SUIT ON!!!
wallace
It might taste like the best stuff on earth, but it ain't BBQ Pork.
That presented against a box of pulled pork, well, the pulled would most likely win.
After reading all the posts, I wonder how the folks that win ever got by not being able to separate. :mmph:
Don't change the dam rule. Heck, go backwards and make it more simple by saying "pulled pork". Get rid of the MM all together or pull it!
FLAME SUIT ON!!!
wallace
KC_Bobby
Babbling Farker
I just don't understand why anyone feels they need to completely separate the butt to get that result (in pictures) as it's possible to do under the current rules and since everyone would have to purchase the entire butt anyway (5 lb rule) - why bother with the change?
I do think the meat in the picture looks like bbq to me - at least it looks like nearly every money muscle I've ever cooked except mine is cooked attached to the rest of the butt until I'm ready to slice the money muscle.
Maybe I've misunderstood this rule change and what people are doing/what they want to do.
I do think the meat in the picture looks like bbq to me - at least it looks like nearly every money muscle I've ever cooked except mine is cooked attached to the rest of the butt until I'm ready to slice the money muscle.
Maybe I've misunderstood this rule change and what people are doing/what they want to do.
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Meat Man
Full Fledged Farker
I've cooked hundreds of butts, but never cooked one this way, just thought I'd try it out. There are countless possibilities as to how one might part out a shoulder and cook it. I just went for the obvious muscles. Having never sliced horn meat before, I was really pleased how that turned out. Might just try to work that in for this year. One could just as easily pull the MM, pull the tubes or pull the horn meat. It may not look like BBQ to some, but trust me put it in a box and it would score very well
Rookie'48
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Huh???
You lost me on that one, Scottie. Judges are already instructed not to compare . . . why will they need re-certification?
Scottie
Quintessential Chatty Farker
I believe they will. They are going to get everything from pulled to sausage. Are the creative cooks that turn in sausage going to be hurt? This is a major rule change and for any cook to lose out because of what they turn in, because CBj's aren't aware of this new rule changes. Not all CBJ's are online and will not be aware of any rule changes
cpw
Babbling Farker
I almost only compete in South Carolina BBQ Sanctioned events, and as far as I'm aware, they don't have any rules against parting the pork, weight limits, reheating and all of that, like the KCBS does. Every single contest I've cooked (and won awards at) we've always cooked whole butts, always turned in pulled, sliced, and chunked pork. And I'm willing to bet every other team that cooks SCBA does the same thing, or at least very similar.
My point being, is that just because the parting rule might go away in the KCBS, it doesn't necessarily mean that grilled or ground or whatever pork is going to start winning any contests.
My point being, is that just because the parting rule might go away in the KCBS, it doesn't necessarily mean that grilled or ground or whatever pork is going to start winning any contests.
DawgPhan
is Blowin Smoke!
Like it or not it makes for some really good BBQ!
Horn meat on the left, MM on the right, and tubes.
I really hope that my pork boxes start landing on tables with boxes that look like that...I could use a new pair of shoes...
Meat Man
Full Fledged Farker
If I cooked pork as well as you, I'd hope the same. Good luck with the new shoes. 
Podge
is Blowin Smoke!
I will have to say, those pics show some really great pork slices, tube and horn pieces!!! But it doesn't look like the definition of BBQ to me
kenthanson
is one Smokin' Farker
But as a judge you have to judge what they presented to be bbq, not what your pre concieved notions of bbq are, if that is presented and falls within the rules and you score it down because it's not what you think bbq is then you are being a poor judge.
MattCom
Take a breath!
And here I thought my rotisserie pork butt chucks were only good for gyros...
I just need KCBS to allow a pita and tzatziki sauce and the judges can enjoy my kids favorite meal! (jk):clap2:
I just need KCBS to allow a pita and tzatziki sauce and the judges can enjoy my kids favorite meal! (jk):clap2:
DawgPhan
is Blowin Smoke!
I am sure it was all very good, but I dont think that sliced horn meat is going to be what changes pork boxes in GA.
Scottie
Quintessential Chatty Farker
I won 1st in Lexington,NC with slices and what I cook for every other contest I cook. Scored well in other Southern states as well. If they judge by what was presented and the meat is good, you should score accordingly. But is is shy i truly believe that KCBS should do a continuing education for all CBJ's. Especially for pork.
Fat Freddy
is Blowin Smoke!
On this I agree with you Scottie. I have only judged a handful of contests but i can honestly say i have only had pulled only boxes maybe two or three times. The norm is sliced MM sometimes with pulled and chunked, sometimes just MM and pulled. But there is almost always sliced in the boxes.
Yet by reading some of the comments on here and also on what is or is not real BBQ or not makes me concerned that will all judges judge what is presented in all KCBS contests, in all areas? If not then there should be some sort of continuing education. This rule is evolving however I am not convinced that everyone take on the rule is evolving.
