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View Poll Results: Do you find comment cards helpful? | |||
Yes | 164 | 83.25% | |
No | 20 | 10.15% | |
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07-25-2013, 02:06 PM | #1 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 09-03-09
Location: Pine Bluff, AR
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Comment Cards?
Help KCBS work out a comment card solution!
All thoughts and <uh> comments welcome |
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07-25-2013, 02:12 PM | #2 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-09-07
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Since the goal of teams not knowing their alternate number has been realized with KCBScore, comment cards will have to either be redacted so as to keep the alternate number hidden from the teams or another means of tracking will have to be instituted.
I don't see the process of redacting as being very laboreous once the cards have been attached to the proper score sheet. Total cost = 1 Permanant Black Magic Marker and 5 minutes of the Rep's time.
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07-25-2013, 02:12 PM | #3 |
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Join Date: 08-29-11
Location: Lincoln, NE
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If judges used them if they scored you low, it would be fantastic.
Comment cards for good are also very helpful.
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07-25-2013, 02:18 PM | #4 |
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Join Date: 06-01-11
Location: Smithville, MO
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I can't say that I am 100% up to speed on the issue, but I thought I read that it is because you don't want the cooks to know their secondary/alternate number. Couldn't you make a pad that had a perforated portion on it that the judge could put the secondary number on, Below the perforated area would be the comment card area and a spot for the rep to put the primary team number in. I'm thinking something similar to the order pads that restaurants use (similar to the link below).
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/25...OK_WAITER.html
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07-25-2013, 02:25 PM | #5 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Candy Sue, are you asking this of competitors, judges, or both?
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07-25-2013, 02:39 PM | #6 |
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If the comment card has helpful information, then I find it helpful.
What I mean is that most of the comment cards I have received have been either vague or useless. A comment like "The portion was too stingy" is useless. (Yeah, that was an actual comment card received by a friend on his chicken turn in).
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07-25-2013, 02:48 PM | #7 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-09-07
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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In 2011, the KCBS Rules Committee suggested that comment cards be modified so that there were check boxes that said things like:
Too Salty Too Sweet Too Spicey Under Seasoned Off Flavor Over Cooked Under Cooked This idea was never addressed to the best of my knowledge but it sure seemed like a very good improvement to those of us on the committee.
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07-25-2013, 02:53 PM | #8 | |
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07-25-2013, 02:57 PM | #9 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-25-06
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I've only had one comment card, and it was extremely helpful!!.. I'd love to see them still used. I don't understand why their use would be (or is) cancelled since they are an option?
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07-25-2013, 03:03 PM | #10 |
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Join Date: 03-14-07
Location: Culpeper, Virginia
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I guess I would 1st need to know what the existing issues are that are creating the problems?
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07-25-2013, 03:04 PM | #11 | |
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07-25-2013, 03:15 PM | #12 |
is One Chatty Farker
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Hance (Lake Dogs) designed a comment card with pre-populated comments that could be checked off to indicate the situation - both good and bad. Sure would great to see his idea again!
If you listen to the July BOD meeting you will know/understand the concerns over the comment cards and how the REPS efforts would increase to make them work.
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07-25-2013, 03:22 PM | #13 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Personally, as said above, I would appreciate valid commentary. Helpful criticism is useful. Knowing what you did right, according to a judge, would be useful too. Critiques I've been to, and suffered through (Artists can get downright mean when being direct), conducted by the professionals and your peers, were an invaluable learning tool.
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07-25-2013, 03:23 PM | #14 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Recommend, again, someone takes a look at the Beer Judging (BJCP) scoresheets for some ideas.
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07-25-2013, 03:29 PM | #15 |
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Join Date: 09-18-11
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Candy, first I commend you for asking the question. I'm sure you realize the potential this has for going south in a hurry and I am hopeful people will keep that in mind and keep things respectful as they respond.
I would love to get comment cards, but in my 10 contests I have not received a single card. I would love to get them for the 6s, the 9s and even the 7s and 8s. The thing that concerns me is it seems the judges are told if they score below a 6, they have to fill out a card. In my limited experience of judging 1 contest, it seems that judges won't score below a 6 because they can't or won't justify why they don't like something or even do. I like the idea of having pre set comments on the card. That would provide the cooks a little more feedback, but also give the judges something to base their comments on while speeding up the process of commenting. If you could come up with a way to make that workable, they should be mandatory for every entry regardless of the score.
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