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Old 11-22-2013, 09:01 PM   #106
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You guys make me feel dumb. I use the same butts for pulled and for MM.

I must be the only SOB with hot spots on my cooker.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:23 PM   #107
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If your product isn't hot enough, rules 17. g & h address this, "holding warm","cooling" and "reheating". This applies to all meats including pork.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:04 PM   #108
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I agree that we need a rule that is clearly defined eliminating the gray area for creative trimming. It's is simple, you can cut the mm off before cook is complete or you can't and should leave the pork whole with minimal trim. I prefer that we leave pork category whole as it is intended to show skill with large cuts of meat, but either way let's define this rule to make sure it is clear.
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #109
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You guys make me feel dumb. I use the same butts for pulled and for MM.

I must be the only SOB with hot spots on my cooker.
We cook 'em whole.

When Dave introduced the new rule, I was in favor of it because the no parting rule wasn't well worded, and not being able to reheat or glaze pork (something allowed with other meats) didn't make sense.

The more I see of the debate though, the more I think we should just leave it as is. Pork has gone from our worst to our strongest category, and I really don't want to spend the next 3 months reinventing it.
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Old 11-25-2013, 04:54 PM   #110
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When will the rule go into effect and what rule is it going to be? Will it go into effect for contests in December that count towards 2014 TOY points?
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:24 AM   #111
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When will the rule go into effect and what rule is it going to be? Will it go into effect for contests in December that count towards 2014 TOY points?
The pork rule is in limbo at the moment. The board is getting together in the near future (week or so?) to bring it up for discussion. If/when a change to the current rule goes in to effect, I am almost certain it would be for the 2014 calendar year.
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I think I'll just cook pork like I always have. I'm sure whatever rule is finalized, it'll have enough grey areas in it (per people's perception and interpretation) that it wouldn't be worth messing with any other way.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:19 AM   #113
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When will the rule go into effect and what rule is it going to be? Will it go into effect for contests in December that count towards 2014 TOY points?
The quick notes give you a rough idea of the discussion that went on and why it is in limbo. Begin reading where it says "Mike Peters" right after the KCBScore Committee Report about 1/3rd the way down. Although I would say I found the recording to be quite interesting.
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The quick notes give you a rough idea of the discussion that went on and why it is in limbo. Begin reading where it says "Mike Peters" right after the KCBScore Committee Report about 1/3rd the way down. Although I would say I found the recording to be quite interesting.
They are going to be too busy trying to figure out to how break the ToY tie than to mess around with this pork rule.
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They are going to be too busy trying to figure out to how break the ToY tie than to mess around with this pork rule.
I'm thinking Thunderdome. Two men enter, one man leaves!
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:21 PM   #116
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Good idea, I think a heads up match would be cool. Though I bet they are going to give it to the team with the most gc's for the year.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:53 PM   #117
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I'm sure the BOD will have a new rule and decision made by 2017 in regards to the TOY tie breaker that will end up Pi$$ing off better than 50% of the membership.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:29 PM   #118
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Read the notes and then listened to the recording.
My take on the discussion on the recording.
Retain 5 pounds.
Cook whole until done.
Can be returned back to the cooker to reheat only.

I disgree with the comment, "membership wants to eliminate the parting rule".
From the comments here it is mixed about 50/50.

As for reheating rule 17) h. addresses this.

What are your thoughts?
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Seems like that's where they are at, however they have not voted on it, and if they don't at the next meeting, the old rule would remain in effect for the 2014 season.
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I'm sure the BOD will have a new rule and decision made by 2017 in regards to the TOY tie breaker that will end up Pi$$ing off better than 50% of the membership.
Actually there's been a tie breaker in place since 2011
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Rules Committee: Candy Weaver
The following changes to the rules for Team of the Year for the 2011
calendar year, are proposed. These will go into effect immediately.
Candy Weaver made a motion in order to prevent a tie in the top 20
positions, the following procedures be applied. Look at the 11th. place
scores of the contests of each tied team. The team with the most 1st
place scores is the winner. If this does not break the tie, look to the
eleventh contest cooked by the tied teams. This contest score will be
factored in with the other ten contest scores. Should this not break the
tie, continue with contest 12. Should a team not have cooked more than
10 contests, a zero will be input for the tiebreaking contest. Of Jan 1,
2011. The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook.
Vote:10 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
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