bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
I got my first two zero's before zero's were cool. After that, it has been easier to win than get a third zero. That's how difficult it is to get a zero.:becky:
BBQ Brethren "Street Food" Throwdown!
I must say, I am completely shocked by that list, Chris. I would've thought that Rick, Thirdeye, and BobBrisket each had about 20 wins. Their pictures in year 1 are permanently etched into my gray matter. For me though, one of the most impressive participants was River City Smokehouse. Only 4 wins, but each entry made an impression. I certainly can agree with Chris that it doesn't take photography skill to win, or a good camera. Some of us simply rely on the law of averages. I bet I have more than twice the number of entries of anyone else, proof that perseverance pays off. :laugh: It would be interesting to see what the total number of entries for these people is and the winning percentages.
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
Honestly, I think the voters tend to be harsher on those who are regularly solid contenders, in order to keep things fair for everyone else. I have no proof of that though. However, after RTD racked up several quick wins, people seemed to stop voting for him, and many of his best ever photos did not win (even though the dish was good too). The only explanation I have is that people didn't want to just vote for RTD all the time. I think some others towards the top of that list have had similar things happen. Again, I have no proof though. I just know that sometimes I see an amazing picture of a spectacular dish, and it loses to another dish that is also good, but in my opinion wasn't as good as the other one is all.
It's probably just the foil talking.
It's probably just the foil talking.
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
I haven't loaded the voting results for any Throwdowns since the "Fast Food" Throwdown, but here is the info up to that point.
These are Throwdown winners, the number of Throwdowns they have entered, and the total number of entries they have posted (some Throwdowns allowed multiple entries).
The first number is the number of Throwdowns they have entered. The second number is the total number of individual dishes they have posted as entries.
Al Czervik 7 9
Alan in Ga 24 25
Bacon 14 14
BBQ Grail 16 16
bigabyte 32 43
BigButzBBQ 26 27
bluetang 38 38
BobBrisket 26 27
Bowhnter 9 9
Brewmaster 6 6
Brimhack 3 3
BurntFinger Jason 7 7
Buster Dog BBQ 7 7
caseydog 19 21
colonel00 11 14
Cracklin Jeorge 9 9
deez20 3 4
deguerre 34 34
Desert Dweller 15 15
Diva Q 4 4
Divemaster 1 1
ecode 65 66
FattyMac 10 11
fweck 10 10
Goose 5 5
Gore 83 98
Grillinski 2 2
Grillman 13 13
Groundhog66 6 7
h00kemh0rns 3 3
High Q 37 40
JD McGee 19 19
Jeff in KC 2 2
JiveTurkey 1 1
Jonny Rotisserie 15 15
landarc 19 19
MadCityJim 9 9
MayDay 5 5
Meat Burner 24 24
Moose 28 28
N8man 25 27
Nature Boy 4 4
Oldyote 17 18
Phrasty 4 4
Plowboy 7 8
Que-Dawg 12 14
R2Egg2Q 9 10
Redhot 27 27
Rick's Tropical Delight 44 51
River City Smokehouse 9 13
rolf 3 3
Ron L 35 36
SaucyWench 2 2
Shiz-Nit 15 16
silverfinger 2 2
Skidder 4 4
SmokeJumper 9 9
SmokinAussie 44 44
The BBQ QB 10 10
The Pickled Pig 8 8
thirdeye 47 49
Will work for bbq 13 14
zydecopaws 14 14
If we take those and compare the the number of wins (filtered to remove Throwdowns since the Fast Food Throwdown to compare apples to apples), then we can get the percentage odds of that person winning based on their number of wins and the number of Throwdowns they entered. I sorted the results from best chance to lowest. Looks like the regulars have the worst chance of winning.:becky::laugh:
JiveTurkey 100
Divemaster 100
Grillinski 100
R2Egg2Q 56
Nature Boy 50
Jeff in KC 50
SaucyWench 50
River City Smokehouse 44
deez20 33
h00kemh0rns 33
rolf 33
SmokeJumper 33
Brewmaster 33
Brimhack 33
BobBrisket 31
BurntFinger Jason 29
Al Czervik 29
Shiz-Nit 27
Diva Q 25
The Pickled Pig 25
Skidder 25
Phrasty 25
Will work for bbq 23
MadCityJim 22
ecode 22
Cracklin Jeorge 22
thirdeye 21
MayDay 20
Goose 20
Redhot 19
Groundhog66 17
Que-Dawg 17
Gore 14
Buster Dog BBQ 14
Plowboy 14
High Q 14
Ron L 14
Moose 14
bluetang 13
Jonny Rotisserie 13
Bowhnter 11
SmokinAussie 11
Rick's Tropical Delight 11
JD McGee 11
caseydog 11
landarc 11
FattyMac 10
fweck 10
The BBQ QB 10
deguerre 9
colonel00 9
Grillman 8
N8man 8
Desert Dweller 7
zydecopaws 7
Bacon 7
Oldyote 6
BBQ Grail 6
Meat Burner 4
BigButzBBQ 4
Alan in Ga 4
bigabyte 3
I have the worst chance of all.:shock:
These are Throwdown winners, the number of Throwdowns they have entered, and the total number of entries they have posted (some Throwdowns allowed multiple entries).
The first number is the number of Throwdowns they have entered. The second number is the total number of individual dishes they have posted as entries.
Al Czervik 7 9
Alan in Ga 24 25
Bacon 14 14
BBQ Grail 16 16
bigabyte 32 43
BigButzBBQ 26 27
bluetang 38 38
BobBrisket 26 27
Bowhnter 9 9
Brewmaster 6 6
Brimhack 3 3
BurntFinger Jason 7 7
Buster Dog BBQ 7 7
caseydog 19 21
colonel00 11 14
Cracklin Jeorge 9 9
deez20 3 4
deguerre 34 34
Desert Dweller 15 15
Diva Q 4 4
Divemaster 1 1
ecode 65 66
FattyMac 10 11
fweck 10 10
Goose 5 5
Gore 83 98
Grillinski 2 2
Grillman 13 13
Groundhog66 6 7
h00kemh0rns 3 3
High Q 37 40
JD McGee 19 19
Jeff in KC 2 2
JiveTurkey 1 1
Jonny Rotisserie 15 15
landarc 19 19
MadCityJim 9 9
MayDay 5 5
Meat Burner 24 24
Moose 28 28
N8man 25 27
Nature Boy 4 4
Oldyote 17 18
Phrasty 4 4
Plowboy 7 8
Que-Dawg 12 14
R2Egg2Q 9 10
Redhot 27 27
Rick's Tropical Delight 44 51
River City Smokehouse 9 13
rolf 3 3
Ron L 35 36
SaucyWench 2 2
Shiz-Nit 15 16
silverfinger 2 2
Skidder 4 4
SmokeJumper 9 9
SmokinAussie 44 44
The BBQ QB 10 10
The Pickled Pig 8 8
thirdeye 47 49
Will work for bbq 13 14
zydecopaws 14 14
If we take those and compare the the number of wins (filtered to remove Throwdowns since the Fast Food Throwdown to compare apples to apples), then we can get the percentage odds of that person winning based on their number of wins and the number of Throwdowns they entered. I sorted the results from best chance to lowest. Looks like the regulars have the worst chance of winning.:becky::laugh:
JiveTurkey 100
Divemaster 100
Grillinski 100
R2Egg2Q 56
Nature Boy 50
Jeff in KC 50
SaucyWench 50
River City Smokehouse 44
deez20 33
h00kemh0rns 33
rolf 33
SmokeJumper 33
Brewmaster 33
Brimhack 33
BobBrisket 31
BurntFinger Jason 29
Al Czervik 29
Shiz-Nit 27
Diva Q 25
The Pickled Pig 25
Skidder 25
Phrasty 25
Will work for bbq 23
MadCityJim 22
ecode 22
Cracklin Jeorge 22
thirdeye 21
MayDay 20
Goose 20
Redhot 19
Groundhog66 17
Que-Dawg 17
Gore 14
Buster Dog BBQ 14
Plowboy 14
High Q 14
Ron L 14
Moose 14
bluetang 13
Jonny Rotisserie 13
Bowhnter 11
SmokinAussie 11
Rick's Tropical Delight 11
JD McGee 11
caseydog 11
landarc 11
FattyMac 10
fweck 10
The BBQ QB 10
deguerre 9
colonel00 9
Grillman 8
N8man 8
Desert Dweller 7
zydecopaws 7
Bacon 7
Oldyote 6
BBQ Grail 6
Meat Burner 4
BigButzBBQ 4
Alan in Ga 4
bigabyte 3
I have the worst chance of all.:shock:
fingerlickin'
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Well boys, thank you for the quick TD history lesson. I can honestly say I don't think you need to be a professional photographer like CD, or be super "creative" like gore to win a throwdown. Looking back at the throwdowns i've voted on l, I do take things like difficulty, description and originality into account. It's not just about who's picture looks the best although it does naturally factor in. I think maybe i'm just hypersensitive about it since the pics I entered into my first throwdown looked so awful once they were put up next to all of yours. The fact that 3 people voted for my dish speaks to the fact that not everyone factors in the quality of the photo. Thanks again for all the info. In a strange way this conversation has been encouraging. I can't wait to do another throwdown.
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Will work for bbq
Babbling Farker
Well all those numbers prove one thing and that is Gore is the undisputed King of double entries. :hail:
Excellent analysis Chris! Thanks so much. :thumb:
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
Apparently the data contradicts what I said above.
From looking at the data, I would say that new folks, and non-regulars have a much better chance of winning than a regular, and that any reputation for photography skill does nothing to improve your chances of winning, and in fact might even make it harder to win.
Pretty interesting.
From looking at the data, I would say that new folks, and non-regulars have a much better chance of winning than a regular, and that any reputation for photography skill does nothing to improve your chances of winning, and in fact might even make it harder to win.
Pretty interesting.
OK, your numbers are quite a bit lower than my tally. I think you might not be counting DQs perhaps? :becky: I counted that I'd passed 100 a few months ago. Anyway, I would tend to agree with you about regulars having a harder time. I believe part of this is when someone new shows up, everything looks really new and exciting. Then after we see them a few times we get a bit bored again. And I also have observed some REALLY outstanding entries by some regulars (for example, by RTD) that I felt were by far better than anything else, but still didn't win. It can depend on what is said, what else was submitted, the conversations in the threads, the direction the wind is blowing, and I think especially by the initial voters. But no, I really don't have a good explanation.
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
Maybe CD should go all out on his next entry, and put his best shot forth.
landarc
somebody shut me the fark up.
Farking Gore and Ecode, hogging all the wins. Actually, I thought I had my third zero sewn up, then I actually got 2 or 3 votes, so you never know. It is hard to win or get a zero. Fortunately, I expect neither.
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
The numbers in that last post only counted data up to the Fast Food Throwdown, because I do not have polling results loaded in the database for anything after the Fast Food Throwdown. You have entered at least two dishes since then.
landarc
somebody shut me the fark up.
I also think that there is a tendency for folks to like certain foods, steak on forks for instance, or ribs, folks vote for ribs a lot. In a simple TD, a well done brisket or burnt ends will always compete well.
Tofu is a hard sell, eggplant can be also.
Tofu is a hard sell, eggplant can be also.
+ a bunch on this... It seems like once the momentum starts going a certain way, it's pretty tough to overcome. I suspect some people look at the poll results first and then follow the other lemmings off the cliff. :tsk:
It was always my dream to win with eggplant, but I don't think that's ever going to happen. Of course someone I know won three times with eggplant, I think just to rub it in. :doh:
I'd have to say that Zombies also are a hard sell.
bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
I have a theory that women have a competitive edge when it comes to cooking with eggplant.:laugh: Men just can't do it. I think they lose some sort of respect by submitting it, or something. I just don't know.
fingerlickin'
Quintessential Chatty Farker
I thought you had to vote before u got to see the results?
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bigabyte
somebody shut me the fark up.
There is a link on the poll (small text) that lets you see the results so far before you have voted.
I wish I could disable it, but there is no option to do so.
landarc
somebody shut me the fark up.
I think women have a competitive edge period, if Cowgirl entered, she would win with 8000 votes. She could enter wool and win. If Tish enters that pulled pork in Make it Funky, she will win, I predict it.
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