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11-10-2014, 11:58 AM | #1 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 10-19-04
Location: Long Island, NY
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Planning 1st brisket on the WSM
Looking to step up my backyard bbq game and am planning on doing a packer brisket on my 18.5 WSM.
- First concern is will it fit. I'm thinking a 12 - 14 lber will be too big. Do I separate the flat and point? Isn't that a no-no? I'm thinking that's my only option. - For the rub, I wanted to go strictly kosher salt and pepper, 1:1 ratio, heavy on both sides. The pepper will be freshly cracked. - Will I need to wrap at all? - What's the best way to refill the charcoal after 8 hours or so? Have a chimney going to dump in along with some extra unlit briquettes? Will it impart any off flavors at all? Not an issue if its wrapped at that time? - I'm using a mverick et-733 to monitor brisket temp and ambient temp above the grate. If I do end up separating flat and point, which should go on top? I'm thinking point, as that would benefit from a higher temp on the top rack for a longer period of time. - The brisket will come from either Resturant Depot or Snake River Farms depending on how confident I'm feeling leading up to the big event. Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice? Am I on the right path or close to it?? Anything I should change/reconsider. Thanks all.
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11-10-2014, 12:12 PM | #2 |
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I think you're on the right track. I wouldn't separate the point until you know it won't fit. It might be a tight fit at first but as the meat cooks down you will end up with space. I can run my 18.5" WSM for 12+ hours at 250 degrees on one batch of coals. Fill the entire basket up with unlit coals then start about half a chimney and add them to the unlit coals in the basket once they are white hot.
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11-10-2014, 12:19 PM | #3 |
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Join Date: 07-03-12
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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1. Get a brisket from Restaurant Depot or Wally World or any place where you can find it cheap. Don't spend the premium money on a Snake River Farm on your first brisket. I actually don't recommend spending money on your SRF brisket until you can confidently put out a great brisket each and every cook.
2. Don't separate point and flat. Keep it whole and intact. If you are cooking on a 18.5in WSM, look into getting a brisket that is between 12-14lbs. And you can squeeze the brisket onto the top grate. It will shrink as it cooks also. Here is a nice easy path for you to follow that will yield you your best possible result your first time out. A. Do not put water in your water bowl. Just foil over the top of it for easy clean up. B. Pack your charcoal ring really well with unlit coals and put 5 man sized fist of wood in there. Do not soak the wood. C. Light off about 1/2 weber charcoal chimney worth of coals till they are ashed over and dump onto the unlit coals. Assemble the WSM. D. Get your WSM cruising at about 300-325 degrees. E. Put your rubbed up brisket, fat cap down on the WSM and maintain temperatures of 300-325 degrees. F. At 4-4.5 hours check the color of the bark. If you are happy with the color of the bark, wrap it in either foil or butchers paper. If you think it is still to light or the bark isnt set, let it go completely nekkid. G. At the 5 hour mark, probe the thickest part of the flat. If it goes in like it is going into a stick of butter that was left out on the counter all night, you are done. If not, wait 30-45minutes and probe again. repeat until you get the probe tender feeling in the thickest part of the flat. (Internal temperature of the brisket will be higher than 200 degrees) And will typically be done in less than 6.5 hours. H. If you wrapped the meat, open up the foil/paper and let the heat vent out for 20minutes. If you have not wrapped the meat, let it sit for 20 minutes to vent off heat. After venting off the heat, wrap in foil or butcher paper and let it rest for 2 hours. I. Slice against the grain and enjoy the brisket.
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11-10-2014, 12:21 PM | #4 |
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Sounds like you are on the right track. There are a multitude of ways to get there, but the key in all of them is to cook it until its done, which means when a skewer or thermometer probe slides in the thickest part of the flat with little resistance.
For your first one, I would try going unwrapped the whole time. Then, on subsequent cooks, you can experiment with wrapping in butcher paper or foil. I use salt and pepper on my briskets. The key is to not go too light or too heavy. I had some over-seasoned brisket a few weeks ago, and it was painfully salty to the point of being inedible. Slat and pepper rubs should look like a light snow on the brisket. You should still be able to see a lot of red underneath the rub. Also, even though it is called a rub, there is no need to rub it in. Just sprinkle it on, and leave it be, or gently pat it down if you absolutely have to touch your meat. Here is what my briskets look like after being rubbed. Good luck! |
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11-10-2014, 12:24 PM | #5 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 10-23-12
Location: Richmond, Va
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aawa hit it pretty spot on for you! Good luck and post your results!
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11-10-2014, 12:32 PM | #6 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-21-08
Location: Katy, TX
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Nothing like cooking a brisket at home! Make sure end enjoy the process.
Fit: either squeeze to fit, as mentioned, or drape it over a large-ish can that has been laid on its side. You can remove the can later once the meat has shrunk. Rub: S&P is a GREAT way to go. 1:1 is by weight, so you'll have much more pepper v. salt by volume. Wrap: I agree that you can just not wrap, so you can establish a baseline. Then tweak it later one variable at a time. Don't separate point from flat. Meat: don't spend too much! A Select can still turn into a FINE meal. If you can get a good score on a Choice, then by all means....
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11-10-2014, 02:31 PM | #7 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 04-26-14
Location: SE Michigan
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All sounds like very solid information in here to me... I would get a 12ish lb brisket and try to find a nice flexible choice. I wouldn't bother spending big $ on a SRF for a first brisket cook. As mentioned by Brew don't go too heavy on the rub. You want to be able to see the meat through your layer of rub.
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11-10-2014, 02:37 PM | #8 |
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Join Date: 06-23-14
Location: Memphis, TN
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I've cooked as big as a 20# on my 18.5. I just put both ends between the grate handles and pull up on the middle to make it fit. It will shrink during cooking.
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11-10-2014, 03:55 PM | #10 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-02-12
Location: Kentucky
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If you do have to add charcoal, it is a pain to try and pour it in through the door opening. Get a shovel to refill it.
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11-10-2014, 04:08 PM | #11 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 03-17-12
Location: Shreveport, Louisiana
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I've done a 14 and 16 pounder on my 18.5 WSM. All you need is a stainless steel bowl and go fat side down. I can go 16 hours easy with a full ring of coal and water. As for the rest, sounds like your getting good advice.
Can't see the same bowl but it's there.
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11-10-2014, 04:35 PM | #12 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Toast bet me to it with the bowl mod.
When picking your brisket look for a thick flat and find one that's floppy. The floppier the better. I think those two things are more important than anything, even grade.
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11-10-2014, 05:11 PM | #13 |
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I know you already got some advice, just gonna throw my 2 cents in. Do what you want with it.
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11-11-2014, 08:05 AM | #14 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
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11-11-2014, 08:32 PM | #15 |
is One Chatty Farker
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The biggest mistake on your first brisket...is to pull it off before it is done...I did it twice. You think if you over cook it it will be dry...the opposite. Pull when probes like butter....well close. If you start probing at 190...and keep checking every 30 min...you will feel it release. Wrap and keep in cooler at least an hour. BINGO!!!
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