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Old 07-15-2013, 08:49 AM   #1
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I got in to smoking a short while ago. I've always appreciated good BBQ, and thought it was time to start doing it myself since the options are limited in my town. I built a UDS and haven't looked back.

I never intended to jump into the competition side of BBQ (unless you count competing with the Father-in-law at family gatherings), but a friend needed some help and has asked me to help him in a local competition. I like to think I'm a good sport and will always help a friend in need, so I agreed. He then asked me to cook my chicken and pork... *gulp* things. just. got. real.

I love my chicken. My wife loves my chicken. My Grandma, brother-in-law, parents, friends, and neighbors love my chicken. William Hung's Grandma probably like his singing(?). In other words, I know there's probably a big difference between Backyard Chicken and Competition Chicken. Singing "She bangs" for Grandma is awkward, but you know she would give you a ticket to Hollywood if she could.

I guess, my question is...will a slaughterhouse brine and simple injection get the job done in a competition, or am I going to be the William Hung of this competition? I hear thighs, and a "bite through" skin are the common practice... I am going to start experimenting on crisping the skin.

Bonus Question for those that compete: Did you get into smoking with competing in mind, or did you just happen upon it? Is it a lot of fun, or is it cutthroat? Just curious.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:07 AM   #2
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Don't sweat it! go and have fun...If it's a KCBS style event it will be blind judging so nobody will know it's yours anyway. The judges will only know a box number they are judging and not a team name. If it's good Q there is nothing to be worried about.

I got into competitions just so I could get better at cooking BBQ. I always work harder when I have a goal ahead of me and the competitions were great motivation.

WARNING!!!!!!! Competition BBQ is addictive and expensive hobby.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:10 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply, Wrenfro! I have a feeling I'm going to get hooked on competing. Not sure I need another hobby, but if it gets me better at cooking BBQ, I'm probably going to love it.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:51 AM   #4
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I've been cooking BBQ for a while, and got into competing after about a year. Comps are an absolute blast and one of my favorite places in the world to be. I'm doing my favorite hobby near a lot of great people.

It is not cutthroat at all. Most teams will share any equipment or tools if you forgot or one broke. Everyone is pretty willing to help everyone, but not at the expense of their own cook, they are there to win too.

If you are wanting to just do it for the experience, go for it. If you are wanting to be serious and really compete, make sure you do a practice run of the cook with a comp timetable. Practice turn in boxes and make it a competition in your back yard with just yourself. Invite over family and friends to eat because you will have a ton of food.

It is also a good idea to go along with another established team and have them mentor you. Help them wash dishes and whatever else they want you to do. You will pick up a lot of needed tips and really get the feel if a comp in action.

However, as said above, it is very addictive and it is expensive. I don't compete nearly as much as I want to due to the expense, so it's an addiction I can't regularly get my fix for.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:39 AM   #5
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Awesome! Thank you, Nucornhusker!

I'm guessing most competitions will send out a version of their timetable or is there a commonly used universal? The guy I'm helping might have access to it too...I can ask him.

Glad to hear it's a tight community. It makes it much more fun and easier to participate when everyone is having a good time.

I'll go into this first one taking it seriously. That way I can set a good benchmark.

Thanks again!
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:50 AM   #6
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In KCBS, turn-ins a usually 12:00 noon chicken, 12:30 ribs, 1:00 pork, 1:30 brisket. Although that is subject to change depending on the organizer. But these are the most standard turn-in times.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:59 AM   #7
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Bonus Question for those that compete: Did you get into smoking with competing in mind, or did you just happen upon it?

This is a very good question!!.. never thought of it. I can say, I got into BBQ because of competition. I wasn't good at it at all, but when I decided I wanted to get good enough at it to compete, that's what drove me. I guess I can say I had a bbq competition frame of mind ever since I took the art of BBQ seriously. On the other hand, I can see why there's people out there who have BBQ'ed for years and are great at it, then decide to compete and most of the time they do not finish as well as they thought they should.. then, they start dog-cussing competitions.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:56 PM   #8
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Yeah, Podge...I didn't think I'd have anything to do with competitions for a long time. Mainly because I'm not exposed to it much. I just started smoking because I loved grilling, and wanted to take my personal grilling to the next level. I'm getting pretty excited for this competition, and if it's half as fun as I think it's going to be, I imagine this won't be my last.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:58 PM   #9
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Thanks again Nucornhusker! P.S. How are those bug-eaters going to do this year in Football? :) I truly miss our rivalry, but now I can wish you the best.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:20 PM   #10
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Just go, have fun.

Only things to keep in mind:
  • You are cooking on a schedule with a 10 minute turn in window. THAT will be the biggest difference. Practice cooking on a timeline. Aim to have your pork done a couple of hours before the turn in. Resting pork in a cooler won't hurt it, and you will be much less stressed than trying to bring it in just under the wire. Comp teams tend to do "just in time" chicken, but do what you are comfortable with.
  • Use chicken thighs. The chicken skin should be bite through either by crisping it on the grill or softening it via braising. If you can bite the chicken and not have the whole skin pull off with your bite, you are there.
Braising is something you probably would not do at home, but most competition teams go this route because it's more reliable than crisping. Covering the chicken tightly in a pan for an hour with some sort of liquid (lots of people use Parkay) as part of the cook, but otherwise just do what you normally do, should get you there. Just factor that hour into your cooking time so you don't overcook the chicken.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:32 PM   #11
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Thanks again Nucornhusker! P.S. How are those bug-eaters going to do this year in Football? :) I truly miss our rivalry, but now I can wish you the best.
We are setup for a good year, but I've seen that before. Our schedule is favorable, Sr. QB, good RB and a great receiving corps. However I'm still not sold on our O-line, that is where I'm nervous.

On defense we lost some good guys, but I know on both sides of the ball, Bo held (redshirted) a lot of really talented guys back and they now have their shot. I hope things come together for us this year.

It's really tough when you have a run like we had in the 90's where loosing just didn't happen and you put up 3 (should have been 4 due to the '93 season) National Championships. Those squads just made expectations so high it is nearly impossible to ever see that again.

I miss all of the Big 8/12 rivalries. The B1G is great and it's fun to play a lot of these teams year in and year out. A few new rivalries are starting to brew (NU/UW), but growing up with all of those Oklahoma, Colorado, Missouri, and then Texas games, it's tough to let them go. However, when the Big XII ruined the NU/OU rivalry, a lot of those good rivalry feelings just got washed down the drain. If he would have kept that one intact as he should have, and every other conference has protected is best rivalry, leaving would have been much harder.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:48 PM   #12
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I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the how the conference stuff played out. Losing our KS rivalry we're forced to try and rekindle and nurture a rivalry with the hogs to the South. I'll miss the all the Big 8/12 rivalries as well.

Since I am a Tiger fan, I wouldn't really know how it feels to have all those NC's under our belt. I've just become used to mediocrity with the occasional good/horrible season sprinkled in. :)

Take care!
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:49 PM   #13
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CBQ, thanks for the awesome tips! I'm going to try my hand at braising on the next smoke.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:35 PM   #14
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We are cooking Racing for the Que in Lee Summit on the 26th & 27th of July. You are welcome to come see how we do it if interested. Keith
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:39 PM   #15
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Cook what you know, you might surprise yourself. Started BBQ with no intention of competing, but after a while curiosity of how I could do reared it's head. It is very fun, but can also be frustrating. Just gotta set your expectations how you want and stick to them.
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