Ugly Drum Smoker - Page 393

Boshizzle · 05-09-2010, 12:56 PM

Update on my excursion with a UDS -

I have about 10 cooks under my belt using my UDS and here are a few things that I have learned.

The UDS is a fun way to cook BBQ. You build it the way you want, you don't pay an arm and a leg, and, after a small learning curve, it holds temps steady as a rock. All things considered, it is easier to clean than my CG Outlaw w/SFB too.

I tried cooking without a diffuser and with a diffuser. I decided I liked the diffuser better since I am more accustomed to BBQ flavor without fat hitting the fire. I use a cheap Walmart grill just above the charcoal basket with a round 15" clay pot tray on it as the diffuser and it works great.

I had some trouble with the temps through a couple of cooks. I just couldn't get the temps up to 250 degrees. I used trial and error to figure what was going wrong. First, I changed the way I setup my square shaped charcoal basket. Using something akin to the Minion method, I started putting unlit charcoal around the edges leaving the bottom of the basket for the lit coals. This allows more oxygen to the fire.

The second thing I did, and this one really gave me a lot of control over the temps and prevent them from going up and down like a yoyo, was to setup a wind shield around the inlet of my UDS. I use what ever is handy like a cinder block, my CG Outlaw with its cover over it, some bags of charcoal, etc. It seems that wind actually sucks air out of the intake preventing enough of it from getting into the drum. In fact, the first time I put up the wind barrier, my temps shot up from 225 to 400 before I knew what happened. Right now I am running at 275 with about a 1/2 gap in my inlet (I used an inlet for a BGE). As long as I fill my charcoal basket right and keep the wind away from the inlet my UDS will keep 275 steady as a rock for hours.

I know how frustrating temp control can be and I hope some of what I learned can help someone else. Vive la UDS! The be all and end all BBQ smoker. ;-)

armor · 05-09-2010, 01:14 PM

Never heard of the wind affecting UDS at air inlet. You must not have used a ball valve.

Boshizzle · 05-09-2010, 01:20 PM

I'm using a BGE vent on it. I thought the wind was cooling it down but it turns out that the wind was preventing enough air flow into the vent.

Slackerx · 05-09-2010, 01:32 PM

I couldn't help but call my pop today after starting to read this thread as he knows some good places to get barrels from. He found a place that sells them cleaned and chared for $24. Should have one this week lol. What did I get my self into. The wife already thinks I'm nuts...might as well give her some confirmation.

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Jiggs · 05-09-2010, 01:45 PM

Where can one find a grate to use on an 85 gallon UDS? I think it would use a 26 inch grate, but I can't find one.

Smokin' D · 05-09-2010, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggs

Where can one find a grate to use on an 85 gallon UDS? I think it would use a 26 inch grate, but I can't find one.

I think the grate to a Weber 26 " grill will fit. Contact Weber Customer Service and you should/might be able to get one there.

DutchQ · 05-09-2010, 02:50 PM

I'll admit it: I stopped reading this thread after 124 pages. But my UDS is nearly finished and being used. Here are a couple of pics:

Thanks for all the great advice, tips, pics, experiences etc.

Happy Q-ing.

David

Sterling · 05-09-2010, 03:05 PM

Here's a couple of links:

http://www.gleasoncamping.com/campri...oundgrate.aspx

http://www.amazon.com/Grillmark-Chro...3435490&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Romes-123-Gril.../dp/B001ASH9O6

I've got 2 of the Rome grills for my 85 gallon UDS.

Sterling Skouson

sjm845 · 05-09-2010, 03:24 PM

Added the antique bottle opener today. Sitting at 250 on the bottom grate right now firing up some sausage and chix thighs. Hand painted the logo with ceramic paint---not bad for no artistic ability!!!

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Boshizzle · 05-09-2010, 03:42 PM

Nice job, DutchQ and sjm845!

HeSmellsLikeSmoke · 05-09-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggs

Where can one find a grate to use on an 85 gallon UDS? I think it would use a 26 inch grate, but I can't find one.

Have you tried calling Weber customer service?

ON THE FARM · 05-09-2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling

Here's a couple of links:

http://www.amazon.com/Romes-123-Gril.../dp/B001ASH9O6

I've got 2 of the Rome grills for my 85 gallon UDS.

Sterling Skouson

YES THIS IS THE PLACE TO GET THEM!!!!!!!

i did the maiden cook on my XL, pulled pork, moinks, ABT's and pig candy and it works awesome!!!

Jiggs · 05-09-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sterling

Here's a couple of links:

http://www.gleasoncamping.com/campri...oundgrate.aspx

http://www.amazon.com/Grillmark-Chro...3435490&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Romes-123-Gril.../dp/B001ASH9O6

I've got 2 of the Rome grills for my 85 gallon UDS.

Sterling Skouson

Thanks Sterling. Much appreciated. I also found another thread about 26 inch grates and it looks like Weber's 26 inch grates run around 42 bucks.

Sammy_Shuford · 05-10-2010, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babyboomerboy

Thank you Skidder for your experience in UDS building and the results. I have read so many brethren that have posted they are getting ready to build their first smoker and have already decided they can make improvements on the main design. If only they would build the UDS the way it was meant to be built and learn how it cooks, they would have an idea what would make their next UDS do different things with changes they would like to make to the original design. To many people want to go the step three before step one and two. I guess its just a fast world we live in today.

After 329 pages of seeing other's mistakes, I have set the advanced (not) stuff aside. Just a basic flat top UDS (KISS).

It's been a good read so far!

Sammy_Shuford · 05-10-2010, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NASCARican

Found a good source of drums in the charleston area...I'm gonna have to start a second one...or a third....maybe a fourth!....think I'm gonna need a bigger shed!!

http://charleston.craigslist.org/mat/1615596264.html

http://charleston.craigslist.org/for/1614645299.html

Somebody from my neck of the woods.

Got my drums of charleston craigs list also.

05-09-2010, 12:56 PM	#5881
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	Update on my excursion with a UDS - I have about 10 cooks under my belt using my UDS and here are a few things that I have learned. The UDS is a fun way to cook BBQ. You build it the way you want, you don't pay an arm and a leg, and, after a small learning curve, it holds temps steady as a rock. All things considered, it is easier to clean than my CG Outlaw w/SFB too. I tried cooking without a diffuser and with a diffuser. I decided I liked the diffuser better since I am more accustomed to BBQ flavor without fat hitting the fire. I use a cheap Walmart grill just above the charcoal basket with a round 15" clay pot tray on it as the diffuser and it works great. I had some trouble with the temps through a couple of cooks. I just couldn't get the temps up to 250 degrees. I used trial and error to figure what was going wrong. First, I changed the way I setup my square shaped charcoal basket. Using something akin to the Minion method, I started putting unlit charcoal around the edges leaving the bottom of the basket for the lit coals. This allows more oxygen to the fire. The second thing I did, and this one really gave me a lot of control over the temps and prevent them from going up and down like a yoyo, was to setup a wind shield around the inlet of my UDS. I use what ever is handy like a cinder block, my CG Outlaw with its cover over it, some bags of charcoal, etc. It seems that wind actually sucks air out of the intake preventing enough of it from getting into the drum. In fact, the first time I put up the wind barrier, my temps shot up from 225 to 400 before I knew what happened. Right now I am running at 275 with about a 1/2 gap in my inlet (I used an inlet for a BGE). As long as I fill my charcoal basket right and keep the wind away from the inlet my UDS will keep 275 steady as a rock for hours. I know how frustrating temp control can be and I hope some of what I learned can help someone else. Vive la UDS! The be all and end all BBQ smoker. ;-) __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

05-09-2010, 01:14 PM	#5882
armor is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 03-26-08 Location: Virginia	Never heard of the wind affecting UDS at air inlet. You must not have used a ball valve. __________________ Mike Risk is the price you pay for opportunity. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

05-09-2010, 01:20 PM	#5883
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	I'm using a BGE vent on it. I thought the wind was cooling it down but it turns out that the wind was preventing enough air flow into the vent. __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

05-09-2010, 01:32 PM	#5884
Slackerx Found some matches. Join Date: 05-06-10 Location: Goshen, Ky.	Re: Ugly Drum Smoker I couldn't help but call my pop today after starting to read this thread as he knows some good places to get barrels from. He found a place that sells them cleaned and chared for $24. Should have one this week lol. What did I get my self into. The wife already thinks I'm nuts...might as well give her some confirmation. Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk __________________ 22.5" Weber OTS 1997 Red Weber Genesis 1000 Old Char-Broil Gasser UDS

05-09-2010, 03:05 PM	#5888
Sterling Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 12-06-09 Location: Gilbert AZ	Grill grates for 85 gallon drum Here's a couple of links: http://www.gleasoncamping.com/campri...oundgrate.aspx http://www.amazon.com/Grillmark-Chro...3435490&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Romes-123-Gril.../dp/B001ASH9O6 I've got 2 of the Rome grills for my 85 gallon UDS. Sterling Skouson __________________ Sterling Born just fine the first time, thanks...

05-09-2010, 01:45 PM	#5885
Jiggs Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 07-01-09 Location: NoDak	Where can one find a grate to use on an 85 gallon UDS? I think it would use a 26 inch grate, but I can't find one.

05-09-2010, 02:50 PM	#5887
DutchQ Wandering around with a bag of matchlight, looking for a match. Join Date: 04-04-10 Location: Netherlands	I'll admit it: I stopped reading this thread after 124 pages. But my UDS is nearly finished and being used. Here are a couple of pics: Thanks for all the great advice, tips, pics, experiences etc. Happy Q-ing. David

05-09-2010, 03:24 PM	#5889
sjm845 Got Wood. Join Date: 07-07-09 Location: Sloatsburg, NY	My baby is finally finished. Added the antique bottle opener today. Sitting at 250 on the bottom grate right now firing up some sausage and chix thighs. Hand painted the logo with ceramic paint---not bad for no artistic ability!!! P1030452.jpg front.jpg opener.jpg P1030456.jpg __________________ The TRASHMAN UDS HILLBILLY SMOKER TELL YOU WHAT BBQ SLOATSBURG, NY [URL="http://tellyouwhatbbq.com"]TELLYOUWHATBBQ.COM[/URL] [URL="http://facebook.com/tellyouwhatbbq"]facebook.com/tellyouwhatbbq[/URL] Twitter: [URL="http://twitter.com/tellyouwhatbbq"]@tellyouwhatbbq[/URL] RUB IT...SMOKE IT...PULL IT!

05-09-2010, 03:42 PM	#5890
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	Nice job, DutchQ and sjm845! __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.