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12-29-2009, 09:05 AM | #16 | |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-11-08
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Anyway, we were also instructed to expect MM and expect it to look like it was parted, but don't DQ for it, because cooks are very good at making it look that way. If you still have doubts, ask the TC / Rep. There were BoD members at the class. Sounds like some judges need to be updated on the current rules. Me? I'm for the appearence scores going away! dmp |
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12-29-2009, 09:16 AM | #17 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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12-29-2009, 09:22 AM | #18 | |
is One Chatty Farker
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12-29-2009, 09:35 AM | #19 |
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Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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Wow judging instructions change often. In 07 I was instructed to give it the app score that I would have if not a DQ, then after all of the judges wrote down their app score - ask the TC about it, then the TC would get a judgment from the rep. At that point if the rep declared it as illegal all the judges would change their app scores to 1's.
The reasoning for that method was so it wouldn't subconsciously change a judges score if it was ruled as a legal entry. To me, that sounds like the better method of the two. Are all judging classes being told the same things regardless who the instructor is?
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12-29-2009, 10:41 AM | #20 | |
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12-29-2009, 11:21 AM | #21 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 09-23-07
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I really hope this comes up at the rules meeting... I for one would like some clarification on it.
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12-29-2009, 03:12 PM | #22 | |
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Join Date: 12-18-07
Location: Western burbs of Chicago, IL
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The current rules (2009) still on the KCBS site still say... 4) The scoring system is from 9 to 2, all whole numbers between two and nine may be used to score an entry. 9 excellent, 8 very good, 7 above average, 6 average, 5 below average, 4 poor, 3 bad, and 2 inedible. 5) A score of one (1) is a disqualification and requires receiving a sample will give a one (1) in all criteria.approval by a Contest Rep. Grounds for disqualification: All judges will give a one (1) in Appearance for unapproved garnish, pooled sauce or less than 6 samples of meat. All judges will give a one (1) in all criteria for sculptured meat, a marked turn-in container, foreign object in the container, incorrect meat. All judges not The rep is the only person currently authorized to allow/intruct a judge to give a 1. Until rule 4 is changed, that's how I would interpret it I'm not sure who instructed otherwise, but I'll be sure and ask about this at the class here in IL on 1/30 The way I was instructed, both in judging class and table captain certification was that, if a judge has a question about an entry, and if it might be a dq, he should bring it up to the table captain, who should then consult the rep. The 1 or 2 times I was actually a witness to a dq, this is how it happened as well. Until KCBS publishes something that says otherwise, I would think that the 2009 rules still apply. How can they enforce an unpublished "rule"?
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12-29-2009, 03:24 PM | #23 | |
is One Chatty Farker
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12-29-2009, 03:30 PM | #24 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 09-03-09
Location: Pine Bluff, AR
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Just bring out the muffin pans for pork and let's call it sculpting!
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12-29-2009, 03:45 PM | #25 | |
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Location: Chi-Town
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Are muffin pans classified as jello molds or ice creams scoops? If they are ice cream scoops, then it would be legal. If they are jello molds, then you will be DQ'd... Honestly, it's no wonder why these Reps don't know what's going on...
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12-29-2009, 03:56 PM | #26 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-09-06
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Could you serve pork puree? I suppose that would be fine as long as you didn't put it back on the pit after you blended your pork.
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12-29-2009, 04:31 PM | #27 |
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You'd have to count on the judges to have their own spoons since you can't put any in the box for them.
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12-29-2009, 04:47 PM | #28 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: Olathe KS
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Lettuce leaf cups
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12-29-2009, 04:49 PM | #29 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-09-06
Location: Blue Springs, MO
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Damn you, Voice of Reason.
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12-29-2009, 05:29 PM | #30 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-04-05
Location: Pleasant Hill, MO
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Then there would be micro-managing going on and we'd have to be told we could not have pooling of the pork!
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