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07-10-2019, 10:36 AM | #226 | |
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Join Date: 08-27-10
Location: Independence, MO
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My point about cost is not people getting outspent. It's about people not being able to show up, or not be able to show up very often. The issue isn't with guys doing, say 8-10+ comps per year. Most of us doing more than that are bought in, and are going to do what's required to go compete every weekend we can. For me, right now, it's about time more than money. I can make 12-13 weekends a year work, and with some doubles hopefully do 15. The issue is the guys that come out and do their local comp, which on the cheap side is still $500-600, and how do we get them to go 2 towns over and do one the next weekend, or next month? How do we then get them to do 4-5 the next year and so on? The money adds up quick, and when you're at that level, it becomes an obstacle. Some will make the commitment and do it. Some won't. Right now, it seems like more won't than will. That said, I think that an option outside of making it cheaper, is to make it seem like a better value. Bigger prize pools could help. If you get one call, if that call is worth $100 vs $25 is psychologically a bigger bump. Other things that could be provided (Friday night dinner, etc) all bring value without costing a whole lot. Like all things in life, the decision to compete more is going to be a value proposition. If you're trying to decide whether to get in to this, any additional value that can be created will increase the chances that more teams stick with it.
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07-10-2019, 10:49 AM | #227 | |
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Join Date: 10-29-16
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I've never tried organizing an event, but does KCBS have any program a new organizer can follow to host a successful event? I mean, Corey Linton hosts a great contest every year and gets over 100 teams from all over to show up and he has a big payout. If there isn't already a new organizer program that KCBS can offer out, maybe a few of these great organizers might be willing to put together their "check-list" for putting on a great contest. The KCBS Board can start by reaching out to those organizers around the country that have very successful events to try and get a few of them to offer that up. |
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07-10-2019, 11:04 AM | #228 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 08-27-10
Location: Independence, MO
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Local sponsors are certainly on the organizers, but why can't KCBS work with sponsors to offer opportunities for individual comps too? I'm thinking something like the Smithfield grant program/SRF Challenge. There is an opportunity to apply for a sponsorship from a large corporation that is invested in BBQ and someone that John Doe from a small town wouldn't know how to approach. Heck KCBS could pretty easily have a single application that organizers could use and apply for all of those types of opportunities at once. Then, the apps go to the companies to decide who they want to sponsor each year. Then, you still go to the local companies and find local sponsors that are invested in your community.
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07-10-2019, 11:19 AM | #229 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-23-04
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This is exactly what I had in mind when I started this thread. I think there is more value in a discussion than a bitchfest, although there is a time for that as well.
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07-10-2019, 01:16 PM | #230 |
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Join Date: 10-21-14
Location: Olive Branch, MS
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Agree with the above. Increasing prize pools will help teams see value in competing. If KCBS had a blueprint for organizers to get sponsors, get visitors, generate revenue then prize pools would be larger, leading to more teams participating.
I know a heavy consideration for a lot of teams is the prize pool and how deep they pay
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07-10-2019, 01:32 PM | #231 | |
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Join Date: 02-27-07
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There is a contest here in the East that is struggling for teams yet they have been adversarial with the teams for the last few years. As a team, I go to events to have fun. I don't want to fight with organizers or KCBS reps over my site or arbitrary made up rules.
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07-10-2019, 01:55 PM | #232 | |
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Join Date: 10-29-16
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You would think some organizers would learn how to keep teams coming back, especially ones that aren't new to organizing contests. |
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07-10-2019, 02:10 PM | #233 | |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-14-12
Location: Springfield, MO
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07-10-2019, 02:13 PM | #234 | |
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We are dealing with one in our state right now that is pulling this crap and acting like since they have 40+ teams every year that they can be that way. Keep it up and you'll be begging for people to show up.
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07-10-2019, 02:35 PM | #235 |
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Join Date: 09-14-12
Location: Springfield, MO
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Are we operating under the assumption that contraction is a bad thing?
It’s professional BBQ. We don’t need 500 pro events or 8000 pro teams. It’s not supposed to be easy or for everyone. Why not focus membership growth on backyard events and non-competitive cooks and let your front line pros serve as marketing ambassadors for the sport? I think we just need to restructure and rethink how we’re organized and a growth boom will follow.
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07-10-2019, 02:50 PM | #236 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-14-06
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One Wyoming comp is going on 14 years and fills up fast with cooking teams and judges. For the teams, they have a nice location with grass and mature trees, electrical hook-up, furnish 40 or 50 pounds of ice and have volunteers to help position campers or trailer mounted smokers. The judges are in very roomy building with a mobile evaporative cooler and restrooms. The event takes place at a fairgrounds and they have a bluegrass festival (with lawn seating), food and beer vendors, a 5K walk & run, a farmers market, a pancake breakfast, a kids zone, a peoples choice, a kids-Q contest, and a car show. Motels offer discounts. The event draws about 2,500 spectators and the general admission is free, and this includes two days of bluegrass music.
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07-10-2019, 02:54 PM | #237 | |
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07-10-2019, 03:17 PM | #238 |
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Join Date: 02-27-07
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It is for KCBS. Their revenue is solely based on volume. Volume of members, Volume of contests, Volume of competitors.
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07-10-2019, 03:21 PM | #239 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-14-12
Location: Springfield, MO
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I think you missed my point.
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07-10-2019, 03:23 PM | #240 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 08-27-10
Location: Independence, MO
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Oh, I'm sure. I anxiously await that day. Tears are delicious.
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