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For the Board *On Topic Only* Strictly moderated. NO BAD KARMA! This forum is for questions and discussions you would like reviewed by members of the KCBS(or other BBQ orgs) Board of Directors. A clean and direct place where they do not have to wade thru day to day chatter. |
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06-09-2008, 11:53 PM | #1 |
Grand Poobah and Site Admin
Join Date: 08-11-03
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KCBS JUNE Agenda
June BOD Agenda
June 9, 2008 KANSAS CITY BARBEQUE SOCIETY BOARD OF DIRECTOR’S MEETING WEDNESDAY, June 11, 2008 AGENDA Proposal for KCBS to provide sanctioning services and providing infrastructure services to the Memphis Barbecue Network (MBN) and its membership beginning January 09 Motion by Wayne Lohman Member to address the Board concerning discipline of teams, to provide information concerning suspensions. Minutes Accounting Discussion concerning auditing requirements for KCBS and future management letters, as well as discussion of cost and frequency. Review of past contest Sanctioning Request Sanctioning Tana Shupe Review of Organizers Handbook and Sanction Request Form Committee Reports Rules Rod Gray No Report CBJ Ed Roith No Report Contest Rep Carol Whitebook Report on the CBJ verification program by Contest Reps. Report on the RAT test and use as a training tool for all CBJ’s Report on Official Clock issues. Education Paul Kirk No Report Marketing Troy Black Marketing Update - McCloud Membership Steve Ownby No Report Mentoring Tana Shupe No Report New Ideas Merl Whitebook Motion requiring Contest Reps to register non sanctioned contest and KCBS licensing for 1st time non sanctioned contest. Research & Development Linda Mullane Motion to establish a contest audit procedure and random contest audit procedures. Technology Don Harwell No Report Old/New Business Proposal from Axcet for Human Resource Services ... Proposal by Carol Whitebook to place on the July agenda a review of each committee’s goals and their mid year application to this years strategic plan for KCBS. Review of Conflict of Interest Policy as to Paul Kirk, Tana Shupe and Troy Black Motion regarding Board Members discussing matters of the board on public forums (BBQ Forum) before the KCBS Board has even discussed, seen, or heard of a matter or issue. Motion by Steve Ownby Motion concerning the CBJ verification program requiring CBJ’s to show their KCBS ID card at a contest at check in. Motion by Steve Ownby Motion concerning international sanctioning. Motion by Tana Shupe. Discussion of Trade Mark Application and Examining Attorneys objections, re: memo from T Steffens of the Polsinelli law firm. Any other matter that may come before the Board
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06-10-2008, 12:01 AM | #2 |
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Looks like theres another gag order in the works.
If board members are not allowed to discuss issues prior to them being tabled, how can they represent what we, as KCBS members, want. ?? " Motion regarding Board Members discussing matters of the board on public forums (BBQ Forum) before the KCBS Board has even discussed, seen, or heard of a matter or issue. Motion by Steve Ownby" LOL...... They are not allowed to discuss things before the Board hears about it?? So how will they know what can be discussed, if its not tabled yet? anyway... seems like deja-vu.
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Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM |
06-10-2008, 07:20 AM | #3 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 02-19-06
Location: Kansas City
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Maybe they should go "coffee talk" style, just throw it out.... get veclempt, and let us talk amongst ourselves as they listen. :)
Seems counter productive to me too, but hey...
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06-10-2008, 07:32 AM | #4 |
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Some of the folks on this BoD don't seem to do anything more than try to stop those that want to move forward. How many times can a "No Report" be listed before your peers ask you what your doing?
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06-10-2008, 07:47 AM | #5 | |
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Join Date: 08-11-03
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I find it ironic that Steve Ownby chairs the membership commitee, yet he motions to take us out of the loop.
If your so inclined, we should send out some quick emails to the BOD to drop the motion. Heres the email address to cut and paste. Quote:
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Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM |
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06-10-2008, 08:02 AM | #6 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-29-06
Location: Arlington, Nebraska
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My understanding is that the way the motion for the MBN (Proposal for KCBS to provide sanctioning services and providing infrastructure services to the Memphis Barbecue Network (MBN) and its membership beginning January 09 Motion by Wayne Lohman) will create a service based entity out of KCBS thus leading to the destruction of their non-profit status. Don't know all the ins and outs, but looks like several members are pushing hard for this and will not let it go.
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06-10-2008, 08:04 AM | #7 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-09-06
Location: Blue Springs, MO
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AKA Plowboys 1 & Plowboys 2 - Randy and I enter as two teams, but cook both together and double up on the entries. Currently, that is legal. Odd, but legal as long as there are two separate spaces and two separate cookers.
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06-10-2008, 08:13 AM | #8 | |
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Board members or Member-members(members like us)??
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Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM |
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06-10-2008, 08:25 AM | #9 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-29-06
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Sorry . . . board Members.
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06-10-2008, 10:13 AM | #10 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 10-01-05
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Discussions of an agenda are certainly good for KCBS. As directors they are responsible to the members, both ethically and feduciary. Discussing issues in our kind of setting (BBQBrethren) seems like a logical solution. BOD members can look in, comment or not, and get a feel for what the membership wants. Now, as to whether they follow what the membership wants or not....I think we have already seen that.
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06-10-2008, 10:33 AM | #11 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
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We have a NEBs meeting every month... we always have a membership report. Sometimes its as simple as 4 new members, 20 renewals, 10 moved to inactive, paypal was used by 15 people. We currently ahve 330 memebers, last year at this time we had 275. I'd think KCBS would have something like that... guess not.
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06-10-2008, 10:55 AM | #12 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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06-10-2008, 11:15 AM | #13 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
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06-10-2008, 11:19 AM | #14 |
is One Chatty Farker
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Don't the rules say that your meat needs to stay in your spot? Seems like that would make it illegal to turn in meat that was ever in another spot after inspection.
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06-10-2008, 11:22 AM | #15 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-23-04
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props, trailers, motor homes, vehicles, tents or any other equipment (including generators) shall not exceed the boundaries of the team’s assigned cooking space. All seasoning and cooking of product shall be done within the assigned cooking space. Teams shall not share an assigned cooking space or cooking device. The final sentence should answer the question. The operative word is 'Teams'. I don't see how you can be on more than one team at the same time. The meat, the prep, and the cooker are all covered. The only potentially ambiguous language I see is 'Teams'. The intent seems clear. Edited for clarity: If a cook is going from camp to camp to cook chicken then he/she is sharing a cooker. my .02
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