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Old 11-12-2019, 02:17 PM   #16
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Is Arnis backed up on new smokers? If so good for him, bad for you.
Yes, tried to buy a gently used one but, the seller took it off the market for some unplanned expenses that came up out his control.

Emailed Arnis and he said he wasn't taking deposits for future builds any more due to a huge backlog.

Great for him! Not so much for me.
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:10 PM   #17
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I have a Humphrie's Pint. The weather never got into double digits Sunday and I had no problem holding heat. I used about 3/4 bag of lump and held the temp at 250 for at least 9 hours. I don't know what the weather is like in your area, but up here insulated smokers are a must.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:57 PM   #18
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I'm in East Texas right now. 24F last night and I expect 19~20F tonight. Generally, we see a couple of brief periods of mid-20's a couple times a year with lows usually more in the low to mid 30's.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:40 PM   #19
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No direct experience with any of these -- all I have is due to spending way too much time on this site and getting sucked into considering cookers I don't need and doing a ton of reading about them.

With that caveat away, when I looked into it a year ago or so I decided that I didn't really see the benefit of the gravity fed and would go IVC. Of those, Ironside and LSG were the two that stood out. I liked the idea that Ironside was designed to burn logs as an option and also liked the sizes they offered. LSG also seemed to stand out to me for the quality and the way the capacity was laid out. Based on where I live, Humphrey would also have to be on the list based on the ability to avoid shipping if I was willing to do a bit of driving but ignoring that, I would go with with one of the other two if I decided to go down the path of an insulated cabinet.

I'd really look at the dimensions of the options and see what fits with your capacity needs. I found quite a bit of variation and some manufacturers seemed to be a better fit for the capacity I'd want -- or at least better at a certain price point.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:44 PM   #20
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I'm in East Texas right now. 24F last night and I expect 19~20F tonight. Generally, we see a couple of brief periods of mid-20's a couple times a year with lows usually more in the low to mid 30's.
This will not have any affect on any of these insulated cabinets.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:29 AM   #21
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This will not have any affect on any of these insulated cabinets.
Agreed! If a WSM can do it, why wouldn't an IVC/GF! Whether 1" or 2" of insulation, it certainly is a lot better than relatively thin sheet steel. I'm really thinking more "low and slow" with an IVC/GF instead of "hotter and faster" on a WSM which is my main smoker right now. Being able to run overnight or stay inside when it is cold outside is attractive to me.
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:46 AM   #22
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Agreed! If a WSM can do it, why wouldn't an IVC/GF! Whether 1" or 2" of insulation, it certainly is a lot better than relatively thin sheet steel. I'm really thinking more "low and slow" with an IVC/GF instead of "hotter and faster" on a WSM which is my main smoker right now. Being able to run overnight or stay inside when it is cold outside is attractive to me.
It’s one of the best things about them. I typically run mine at 300-325, but sometimes for timing I will run lower overnight. This passed weekend I did an overnight because I just wanted to have everything on cruise control until football started.
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Old 11-13-2019, 11:53 AM   #23
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With Evie Maes smokers not being available for purchase in the near future, I'm rethinking my mid-size cabinet smoker options.

Using lump or briquettes, what are the advantages and disadvantages of Gravity-fed or traditional insulated cabinet smokers?

I'm considering brands like Ironside, LSG, Myron Mixon, Assassin, TK, Humphrey's and similar makes. There are other brands out there worth consideration too such as Stumps that sort of get overlooked unless you live around them which is fair I guess, considering shipping expenses which is why I don't currently own a Humphrey's Weekender.
Wait, what's going on with Evie Mae's?

Edit - Nevermind I should have read through the thread. I noticed they did take the smoker listings off their webpage.

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Old 11-13-2019, 12:18 PM   #24
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No direct experience with any of these -- all I have is due to spending way too much time on this site and getting sucked into considering cookers I don't need and doing a ton of reading about them.

With that caveat away, when I looked into it a year ago or so I decided that I didn't really see the benefit of the gravity fed and would go IVC. Of those, Ironside and LSG were the two that stood out. I liked the idea that Ironside was designed to burn logs as an option and also liked the sizes they offered. LSG also seemed to stand out to me for the quality and the way the capacity was laid out. Based on where I live, Humphrey would also have to be on the list based on the ability to avoid shipping if I was willing to do a bit of driving but ignoring that, I would go with with one of the other two if I decided to go down the path of an insulated cabinet.

I'd really look at the dimensions of the options and see what fits with your capacity needs. I found quite a bit of variation and some manufacturers seemed to be a better fit for the capacity I'd want -- or at least better at a certain price point.
That's funny - I could have written this exact response. Only difference is that my final 3 include Ironside, LSG, and T&K. I thought I was interested in GF for a while, but I'd prefer to set up charcoal/wood ratios at the onset (similar to my WSMs) than add wood throughout the first hours of a cook.
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Old 11-13-2019, 02:04 PM   #25
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I ended up getting a cascade smoker since the builder is only a few hours away. I have had no regrets. I got the quedeville and use it all the time. I generally only use one of the shelves but have used two on occasion. Haven’t had to have the third one in there yet. Lots of great features that make it an easy and efficient smoker with lots of capacity.

If you have a builder within driving distance that makes a good ivc, I’d say go with that. I really liked picking mine up in person and talking to the builder for a while.

If you end up getting one shipped, I wouldn’t cross cascade smokers off your list unless you are against the reverse flow design.

I’d say the only downsides is it isn’t a stick burner if you ever want to do that and they aren’t cheap.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:20 PM   #26
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Wait, what's going on with Evie Mae's?

Edit - Nevermind I should have read through the thread. I noticed they did take the smoker listings off their webpage.
I was ("tow fingers pinched together") this close to getting an Evie Mae smoker but, my timing was off by a week or two.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:23 PM   #27
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I’d say the only downsides is it isn’t a stick burner if you ever want to do that and they aren’t cheap.
For a stick burner, I'm really hoping I can score an Evie Mae model someday.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:25 PM   #28
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Assassin 24 gravity feed owner here.

Pro's:

-Holds spot-on temperature for as long as you have fuel with the supplied IQ120 controller

-Very well insulated. I can maintain whatever cook temp I need (usually 250-275) in single digit air temp

-Set and forget - get the coals started, plug in the IQ120, set the desired temp, and walk away. No need to tend the cooker

Cons:

-Heavy

-Bottom 2 racks run hotter than the top 2, but you plan for that and it's not really a problem.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:49 PM   #29
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Assassin 24 gravity feed owner here.

Pro's:

-Holds spot-on temperature for as long as you have fuel with the supplied IQ120 controller

-Very well insulated. I can maintain whatever cook temp I need (usually 250-275) in single digit air temp

-Set and forget - get the coals started, plug in the IQ120, set the desired temp, and walk away. No need to tend the cooker

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-Heavy

-Bottom 2 racks run hotter than the top 2, but you plan for that and it's not really a problem.
Do you have any pictures of the 24 loaded up?
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Dom,

Not a pic of the full load, but here's a pic from a couple of years ago. You can only see the top rack open, but I had 9 racks on, cooking for a friend's baby shower.



Here's the cook chamber right after I received it and before seasoning:

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