Ordering Butchers Paper - Page 2

cmohr74 · 01-21-2013, 07:33 AM

Is The Paper Coated
They all are coated with the exception of the white newsprint and the wider rolls of butcher paper. Butcher paper and peach treated paper have a coating called sizing which gives them leak resistance and wet strength. Our 24",30", and 36" rolls of butcher paper are untreated, because they are not often used for meat wrapping (they're often used for crafts or for table covers). Freezer paper has an interior coating of polyethyene. This gives the paper strength, leak resistance, and prevents freezer burn for up to a year!
Can I Write on This Paper?

You can write with sharpie, pen, pencil, or crayon on any of these papers. However, you can only write on the outside of the freezer paper, due to the poly coating.
Are There Peaches in Peach Treated Paper (alt. What is Peach Treated Paper)?

There are no peaches in peach treated paper. Much like butcher paper, peach treated paper is coated with sizing for wet strength and leak resistance. But unlike other papers, peach treat paper allows the meat to breathe, allowing it to maintain an attractive color. Also, the darker color hides any juices that happen to leak. You should not freezer in peach treated paper (or butcher paper) unless you first wrap the product in plastic

Fireburd · 01-21-2013, 07:48 AM

So the "sizing" treated paper is safe for wrapping meat in the smoker?

cmohr74 · 01-21-2013, 07:54 AM

That's what I'm a little uncertain about. One adds Red dye #40, do you want that to leak into your food? Not really sure about either right now.

CarolinaQue · 01-21-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cmohr74

Is The Paper Coated
They all are coated with the exception of the white newsprint and the wider rolls of butcher paper. Butcher paper and peach treated paper have a coating called sizing which gives them leak resistance and wet strength. Our 24",30", and 36" rolls of butcher paper are untreated, because they are not often used for meat wrapping (they're often used for crafts or for table covers). Freezer paper has an interior coating of polyethyene. This gives the paper strength, leak resistance, and prevents freezer burn for up to a year!
Can I Write on This Paper?

You can write with sharpie, pen, pencil, or crayon on any of these papers. However, you can only write on the outside of the freezer paper, due to the poly coating.
Are There Peaches in Peach Treated Paper (alt. What is Peach Treated Paper)?

There are no peaches in peach treated paper. Much like butcher paper, peach treated paper is coated with sizing for wet strength and leak resistance. But unlike other papers, peach treat paper allows the meat to breathe, allowing it to maintain an attractive color. Also, the darker color hides any juices that happen to leak. You should not freezer in peach treated paper (or butcher paper) unless you first wrap the product in plastic

I think that this is getting over thought just a bit. The above highlighted in red should answer the question of what size to buy and also take care of the concern about using treated paper.

cmohr74 · 01-21-2013, 09:05 AM

WOW, I'm glad one of us was paying attention. I'm not exactly sure how I missed that one. Thanks CarolinaQue.

Fireburd · 01-21-2013, 10:06 AM

I saw that line but then you read under the peach paper and it says it is treated with sizing so it contradicts itself. I've searched all over and can't find anything that says sizing is safe for food under heat conditions in say a smoker.

Boshizzle · 01-21-2013, 10:17 AM

Butcher paper is approved by the USDA as being food safe. Red or white, it doesn't matter. Did you see in Pitmaster T's latest brisket video that he was using white BP?

Fireburd · 01-21-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boshizzle

Butcher paper is approved by the USDA as being food safe. Red or white, it doesn't matter. Did you see in Pitmaster T's latest brisket video that he was using white BP?

I understand that but I read this as its butchers paper that's been coated with sizing to help retain moisture. I'm trying to find out if sizing holds up under heat and make sure it isn't off gassing some harmful chemical as it breaks down. Everything I've seen says butchers paper should be all natural and in my head if its been treated its no longer all natural. I'm sure its fine just trying to get a definite answer that sizing won't contaminate food under heat.

CarolinaQue · 01-21-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fireburd

I saw that line but then you read under the peach paper and it says it is treated with sizing so it contradicts itself. I've searched all over and can't find anything that says sizing is safe for food under heat conditions in say a smoker.

Then don't buy the peach paper, just buy a roll of the 24" white butcher paper and be done with it.

Fireburd · 01-21-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaQue

Then don't buy the peach paper, just buy a roll of the 24" white butcher paper and be done with it.

I appologize for asking my question. Didn't mean to frustrate some people just new to this and trying to figure it out with the knowledge here. I'm a man who likes to know how things work and occasionally I over think things and upsets some people because I won't just go with the flow and just assume it works because it does. Thank you all who tried to help and sorry if my questions were annoying.

CarolinaQue · 01-21-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fireburd

I appologize for asking my question. Didn't mean to frustrate some people just new to this and trying to figure it out with the knowledge here. I'm a man who likes to know how things work and occasionally I over think things and upsets some people because I won't just go with the flow and just assume it works because it does. Thank you all who tried to help and sorry if my questions were annoying.

It's not that the question is annoying and you don't need to apologize for asking it. I'm just saying that there is a clear answer if you read what was highlighted in red. I'm just not sure why the question is being re-asked so many different ways is all.

MidnightStokersBBQ · 01-21-2013, 11:55 AM

Did my first butcher paper brisket this weekend and it turned out killer. Not sure I can go back to foil now. Great bark and perfect texture.

Vision · 01-21-2013, 12:03 PM

I finally got a roll of 18" red 40# paper, but boy it was a lot of work. Restaurant Depot does not carry it here.

MidnightStokersBBQ · 01-21-2013, 12:13 PM

If you get a roll from the POS site (where I got mine) get the stand for it. Makes it very easy to dispense one handed. I got the 24" and it's a perfect width for a packer.

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Ole Man Dan · 01-21-2013, 02:46 PM

I get mine from a local butcher shop.
I buy a good bit of meat from him, so sometimes the paper's free.
Same with butcher twine. I could get it at a local restaurant supply place, but free is hard to beat.

01-21-2013, 07:33 AM	#16
cmohr74 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-12-11 Location: Streamwood, Illinois	Is The Paper Coated They all are coated with the exception of the white newsprint and the wider rolls of butcher paper. Butcher paper and peach treated paper have a coating called sizing which gives them leak resistance and wet strength. Our 24",30", and 36" rolls of butcher paper are untreated, because they are not often used for meat wrapping (they're often used for crafts or for table covers). Freezer paper has an interior coating of polyethyene. This gives the paper strength, leak resistance, and prevents freezer burn for up to a year! Can I Write on This Paper? You can write with sharpie, pen, pencil, or crayon on any of these papers. However, you can only write on the outside of the freezer paper, due to the poly coating. Are There Peaches in Peach Treated Paper (alt. What is Peach Treated Paper)? There are no peaches in peach treated paper. Much like butcher paper, peach treated paper is coated with sizing for wet strength and leak resistance. But unlike other papers, peach treat paper allows the meat to breathe, allowing it to maintain an attractive color. Also, the darker color hides any juices that happen to leak. You should not freezer in peach treated paper (or butcher paper) unless you first wrap the product in plastic __________________ FEC100 /Memphis/"Hulk" UDS / S/S UDS, Peroria Backyarder

01-21-2013, 07:48 AM	#17
Fireburd Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 12-06-12 Location: Mt Holly, NJ	So the "sizing" treated paper is safe for wrapping meat in the smoker? __________________ BWS G2 Party w/custom cart, Thermapen (does yours have flames.......mine does so be jealous)

01-21-2013, 07:54 AM	#18
cmohr74 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-12-11 Location: Streamwood, Illinois	That's what I'm a little uncertain about. One adds Red dye #40, do you want that to leak into your food? Not really sure about either right now. __________________ FEC100 /Memphis/"Hulk" UDS / S/S UDS, Peroria Backyarder

01-21-2013, 09:05 AM	#20
cmohr74 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-12-11 Location: Streamwood, Illinois	WOW, I'm glad one of us was paying attention. I'm not exactly sure how I missed that one. Thanks CarolinaQue. __________________ FEC100 /Memphis/"Hulk" UDS / S/S UDS, Peroria Backyarder

01-21-2013, 10:06 AM	#21
Fireburd Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 12-06-12 Location: Mt Holly, NJ	I saw that line but then you read under the peach paper and it says it is treated with sizing so it contradicts itself. I've searched all over and can't find anything that says sizing is safe for food under heat conditions in say a smoker. __________________ BWS G2 Party w/custom cart, Thermapen (does yours have flames.......mine does so be jealous)

01-21-2013, 10:17 AM	#22
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	Butcher paper is approved by the USDA as being food safe. Red or white, it doesn't matter. Did you see in Pitmaster T's latest brisket video that he was using white BP? __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

01-21-2013, 11:55 AM	#27
MidnightStokersBBQ Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-10-12 Location: Olathe, KS	Did my first butcher paper brisket this weekend and it turned out killer. Not sure I can go back to foil now. Great bark and perfect texture. __________________ Vegan is actually an ancient native american word. It translates into "Bad Hunter" 18" WSM & 22" WSM

01-21-2013, 12:03 PM	#28
Vision is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-11-11 Location: Baltimore, Maryland	I finally got a roll of 18" red 40# paper, but boy it was a lot of work. Restaurant Depot does not carry it here. __________________ Mak 1 Star, Blackstone 36, WSM 18, Weber OTG

01-21-2013, 12:13 PM	#29
MidnightStokersBBQ Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-10-12 Location: Olathe, KS	If you get a roll from the POS site (where I got mine) get the stand for it. Makes it very easy to dispense one handed. I got the 24" and it's a perfect width for a packer. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Vegan is actually an ancient native american word. It translates into "Bad Hunter" 18" WSM & 22" WSM

01-21-2013, 02:46 PM	#30
Ole Man Dan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-24-11 Location: Gadsden, Alabama	I get mine from a local butcher shop. I buy a good bit of meat from him, so sometimes the paper's free. Same with butcher twine. I could get it at a local restaurant supply place, but free is hard to beat.