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01-02-2014, 01:51 PM | #61 | |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 06-03-11
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the hook system at first glance seams like a novel way to solve the limited space available in the smaller barrel, but how do you probe to see if a brisket is done without burning yourself? do you take out the whole brisket, probe and return? a few times I Have over cooked and had a brisket falling apart while coming off the grate, how would that work on hooks? One method is to use a maverick probe stick it in the meat, stick in the hooks and hang it and then just go off temp or time, but with the meat hanging I can't probe it easily, and I can't see if its done, as I don't go by temp and time, the briskets my friend has cooked with my assistance have been decent but not awesome and it is a pain to take stuff off, wrap it, hang it and return it if you wanted to wrap, and I generally get the best results from a brisket wrapped when the bark is good, with the meat hanging it is hard to even see the bark to judge. Having now cooked on both I wouldn't wish a PBC on anyone, unless it was a second cooker for an experienced cook, of course this is just my opinion. If you must have a pre-built cooker because you can't build a UDS, why not put an extra 40 bucks in and get a WSM 18.5 inch, especially if it is your first cooker, and you are new to bbq. http://www.amazon.com/Weber-721001-S...ef=pd_sbs_lg_1 You would gain a temp gauge, multiple grate levels, and adjustable temp. and a design that is actually friendly to a new cook. |
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01-02-2014, 02:13 PM | #62 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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It's also a cooker and not a true smoker. If someone doesn't want to make their own mini UDS and just wants to buy one then go for it...just be aware of it's limitations. Sure you can rig ways to shut off the air but you shouldn't have to.
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01-02-2014, 02:22 PM | #63 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-25-12
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It's aimed for a set it and forget it ONLY IF you want it to. I myself play with the air intake to adjust according to my cooks. So you def can mess with it and control or change your temps. I know it's not as big as a 30 gal drum but it's plenty even for large parties I've hosted. BTW I ran it for close to 8 hours on one load. Long enough?? I think so. Limitations? hahaa Where there is a will there is a way. I use a themapen with gloves to get temps or connect my Maverick or something. I modded mine with a Thermometer Here are some of the cooks that I did for example Still plenty of space left Hot smoked cured sausage and ham at 180* I improvised but still Hot smoked cured ham and bacon at 200* Turkey and brisket at once Chicken Spatchcocked turkey 18 lbs Riblets and 6lbs chicken all at once Pizza Just in case there is doubt if it cooked Ground beef kabobs leg of lamb You can use the grate if you want as well or get crafty and install another grate like a UDS. Just sayin yada yada yada.... You get the pic Forgot the briskie ane chix pics
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01-02-2014, 02:35 PM | #64 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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01-02-2014, 04:40 PM | #65 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-14-12
Location: Springfield, MO
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Noah is a great guy and runs a honest company. The product works exactly as advertised and comes shipped to your door for a fair price. I just don't get all of the animosity. If you don't like them, great! Don't buy one. Spreading misinformation because it just doesn't fit your style serves no purpose.
I have cooked entire competitions on the PBC and managed to take out many Jambos in the process. Along with the WSM, it is the most capable cooker in that price range, and in the right hands it is as capable as any cooker in any price range.
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01-02-2014, 05:41 PM | #66 | |
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Join Date: 04-03-11
Location: Texas
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Now everyone if you see my films can see I was impressed with what it could do. Any limitations it had I OVERCAME BECAUSE I AM A PIT... MASTER!!!! it's is what we do... We cook meat. It's about the meat. The equipment matters not. I can tell you one thing my UDS couldn't do... One.. Unless I mod it to BE a PBC, IT CANNOT cook the three racks of ribs, six chickens and 14 tenderloins and six links sausage I did for a little supper at my moms house. I staggered those puppies over a mere 5 hours and was relaxed, visited, didn't worry about nothin as it cooked. AND MY UDS WON'T FIT IN A CAR TRUNK. Look I don't care if people buy the PBC... I just want more people like this guy to chime in.. Get everyone pissy... Then pounce on everyone's pig pile so more get sold. The PBC IS ALSO I curse. One can see in my video UNDERTAKER I am making that message when I flood the PBC WITH 3000 gallons of water.
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01-02-2014, 05:44 PM | #67 |
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Join Date: 06-23-10
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Those skewer hooks are pretty neat.
Did you buy or make those also is there something at the end to keep the meat/potatoes from sliding off?
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01-02-2014, 05:51 PM | #68 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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01-02-2014, 05:53 PM | #69 |
Knows what a fatty is.
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01-02-2014, 05:57 PM | #70 | |
Got Wood.
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That was sort of the point I was making, it is a fine extra pit or second pit, but a horrible beginner choice in my opinion, I was able to help my buddy turn out a decent brisket and he has had success with chicken, but as an absolute beginner I think the PBC was a bad choice, and it is sold as an amazing game changer, and having used it I just don't see it as such, sure you could play tetris and pack stuff in but don't try and tell me you can't do that on a uds, I have some meat hooks and they work fine to hang things from under a standard grate, might make the grate heavy but that is what good leather gloves are for. Of course I am no expert pit master, that should be obvious, but I can turn out good results on my drum and kettle, and I have hung sausage and chicken from below the grate while a brisket cooked above, I don't believe you couldn't pack more in a uds if you applied the same creativity you applied to the PBC loading. Thing is there is nothing special about the "PBC" it is simply a 30 gallon drum with a couple extra holes for rebar to fit in. I agree with your comment about calling it a cooker / smoker, if this is a cooker my drum is a cooker, because again the only difference is the rebar / hole for rebar. |
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01-02-2014, 05:57 PM | #71 |
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Join Date: 01-01-10
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Does somebody just bump this PI $$ ING Contest every once and awhile and for what reason? I never see a thread on ANY other cooker were folks condemn it. So what goes here? One very good member left over this BS and now his talents are gone from the Brethren. He talked about this cooker and got raped. And raped by some of today's followers. End of Rant
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01-02-2014, 05:57 PM | #72 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 08-22-13
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A smoker will allow you to do a long low and slow smoke...and of course produces smoke with chips/chunks or splits .
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01-02-2014, 06:00 PM | #73 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Nothing at the end of the taters. The hold good until pull time. I don't have one that has fallen yet. Not sweet potatoes though. They turn mushy quick and fall.
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01-02-2014, 06:25 PM | #74 | |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 04-03-11
Location: Texas
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Oh I see. Here is the answer.
He admits he has no experience... Like I did when I was spouting my bull**** before I got one, and when he had access to one... Lol... He could not get it to work right. Oh yeah... And his friends don't listen to him either. Now about me as a monk.. He has that right. My membership here under this name and barbefunkoramaque had been one long fark job... One loooooong troll set up. You have all been part of the ruse. I was planing this even before Noah thought of this. Now... I think all his defense of the product is worth a five pound bag of Noah's rub. How's that for spam? . Quote:
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01-02-2014, 06:37 PM | #75 | |
Babbling Farker
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As long as people keep chiming in with the same arguments that I have never seen applied to any other smoker... That the PBC CAN BE BUILT at a fraction of the cost of a 85, 55, 35 gallon UDS is simply committing a strawman fallacy. That is not the point.... The point has always been... If u don't want to buy all the stuff, burn the drum out, repaint it, cut holes and buy hole saws and drills, brass couplings, black pipe, racks and ****.... Buy the PBC AND GET ON WITH BBQ LIFE. And just because I wrote THE article in Smoke Signals saying its a PERFECT entry level smoker for the novice who is not as OCD as we are about BBQ... MAY or may not make me a troll. Lol.... Where's my rub mr. Noah
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