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Was wondering if anybody else. had up and down scores. useing only the muscle for center attraction.
Money muscle .
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I did. Of our 10 contest I had five top 10's, three in the middle, and two DAL. I think did include pulled with mine but the money muscle was the center piece. I think it was more to do with over injecting the muscle for the size it was then the presentation as I have seen some real nice presentations with pork.
Sledneck
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Contracted Cookers
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The reason why I posted this was. overheard a couple of judges saying they did not think the muscle was cooked with butt as a solid piece.
Sledneck
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Oh boy here we go
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Isn't that an issue for the table captain and Rep to determine whether a DQ is in order, rather than for individual judges to "punish" the cook for their assumption by issuing low scores?
Contracted Cookers
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yes it is . I know
Jeff_in_KC
somebody shut me the fark up.
Honestly, the money muscle seems to be the most difficult part of the butt to cook. Because we trim them so that it kinda sticks out there on the end, it is susceptible to being burnt or at the least overcooked. If I get a really nice one and I catch it at about 180 to 185 degrees, the whole butt is done as far as I'm concerned. I cook four so I have planty to leave on to bring closer to 200.
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Jacked UP BBQ
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I never cook mine connected, I always part my butts before they reach internal temp, if you call it cheating, catch me!!!!!!
PatioDaddio
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Uh oh... Here we really go... :icon_bugeyed :icon_shy I'm sure Paul Kirk will be on here soon to edumacate us all. :icon_shock1:
John
Plowboy
somebody shut me the fark up.
There's a class coming up in your area the end of March that could teach you how to cook a whole butt to 200 degrees and turn in sliced pork as well as pulled... all from the same butt.
Now THERE'S some KCBS education! Hey, I should be able to get a free ad in the Bullsheet for cooking classes. Thanks, Paul Kirk!
Sledneck
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Does the MM smell different if cooked separate rathen than whole?
Jeff Hughes
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And that's something to be proud of?
Jacked UP BBQ
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It was a joke....thanks for understanding....I do not even use the money muscle, it is completely overrated imo. I will stick to my NEW pork recipe that has been doing very well with the butt in tact from beginning to end.
dmprantz
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According to the class I just took, parting meat is a DQ. If a judge feels that any entry gets a DQ, the new rules are to give the DQ score (1), then judge the taste/tenderness as if it weren't a DQ, then, after taste and tenderness, report your findings to the TC, and wait for the rep to handle it. At that point all judges at the table may change their scores to DQ, and the Taste/Tenderness scores stand. Sounds like crap to me, as your taste/tenderness scores should be able to change too.
Anyway, we were also instructed to expect MM and expect it to look like it was parted, but don't DQ for it, because cooks are very good at making it look that way. If you still have doubts, ask the TC / Rep. There were BoD members at the class. Sounds like some judges need to be updated on the current rules.
Me? I'm for the appearence scores going away!
dmp
Plowboy
somebody shut me the fark up.
I think standard practice is to consult the TC and the Rep prior to writing a 1 on the score sheet... not after.
dmprantz
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They said it was a new rule change coming down and they were teaching us how to do it the new way. I didn't judge The Jack, but some one how did could tell you if that's how they did it there. They also tried something new where we couldn't ask the TC about the DQs before we wrote them down, but I think that was just for the class.
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KC_Bobby
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Wow judging instructions change often. In 07 I was instructed to give it the app score that I would have if not a DQ, then after all of the judges wrote down their app score - ask the TC about it, then the TC would get a judgment from the rep. At that point if the rep declared it as illegal all the judges would change their app scores to 1's.
The reasoning for that method was so it wouldn't subconsciously change a judges score if it was ruled as a legal entry. To me, that sounds like the better method of the two.
Are all judging classes being told the same things regardless who the instructor is?
The reasoning for that method was so it wouldn't subconsciously change a judges score if it was ruled as a legal entry. To me, that sounds like the better method of the two.
Are all judging classes being told the same things regardless who the instructor is?
pat
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I was taught the same as you Bob.....in 2007 also.
