rob g
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It appears the judge seating program has been discontinued in favour of random seating of judges. A motion at the Feb BOD meeting passed unanimously.
It appears the judge seating program has been discontinued in favour of random seating of judges. A motion at the Feb BOD meeting passed unanimously.
That was it's one plus. Hopefully the random draw will keep that aspect.I didnt mind the program took it out of the reps hands
The score based seating program was flawed regardless of the good intentions:
1: You can't average random events: every contest is unique: there aren't enough constant factors to establish a baseline.
2. Organizers hated it.
3. TOD's TOA's didn't decrease
That's an angle I hadn't really considered - you should run for the Board:caked:For KCBS, the biggest issue is that they are currently not at risk of influencing the outcome of events where money is at stake.
that's an angle i hadn't really considered - you should run from the board:caked:
That's an angle I hadn't really considered - you should run for the Board:caked:
Random will cause more TOD and TOAs. If you actually see what Mark has posted about the statistical analysis of the program and seating before and after it did help. Wasn’t ever designed to completely remove just to diminish. Mark also noted it wasn’t perfect but just better. BOD voted against wishes of Rep committee supposedly as well.
Where can we see any of the data posted? This has been my concern about just getting rid of it for the sake of not liking it. Who is evaluating the effectiveness of the program?
I’m sure if you contacted Mark Gibbs of Checkered Flag 500 BBQ team he could get you more info as he is the one who has done it. I’ve seen some of the info posted to judge groups on Facebook he is a member of.
I just read through his comments on FB. I am starting to think that they may have jumped too soon to get rid of this. He does state that he does data analysis for a living and what prompted him to study this idea was not on him hitting a bad table but rather him getting an RGC that he feels he never should have gotten. He says that analysis showed how flawed the old system was, including that seating by experience was the worst.
I guess we'll wait and see what happens next.
IMO...the most vulnerable part of the whole process is the inputting of the judges scoresheets into the computer. Sometimes the Rep does it, sometimes an extra judge does it and sometimes a volunteer from the Organizers does it. As for seating, the only way that is not an attempt to manipulate the scoring is a totally random generated by computer.