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Old 01-05-2010, 08:30 AM   #31
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will this methed work for the hair on my azz?
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:31 AM   #32
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Yet another area that we don't need input from the board on... :)

I think Jorge had a nice succinct answer. It is part of prep, before anything else is done. Removing a stray feather is removing a stray feather. regardless of how it is done. IF we call that cooking, then aren't we all illegal? - the feathers were removed with scalding water or steam as part of the processing. So applying heat to the bird could potentially have started the cooking process, yadda, yadda...

Dan - not a dig at you, since I know you prefaced this question with winter bordem...

But another question in general...
At what point do we simply look to common sense to tell us vs. getting a ruling. If cooking is not the outcome, or the intent... why it is even in question? We need to have protections in place to avoid something like burning off a feather consuming board room time, right? If intent to defraud, cause some sort of malice, or provide an unfair advantage is the intent, then by all means put a rule in place to stop it... But for things such as this that seem so common sense, why would we cast any doubt?

Kinda like needing an "interpretation" of a rule that has been around forever.

Burn off a feather if you want, pluck or shave them, heck get the chemical hair remover made for chickens lol....
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:34 AM   #33
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Yet another area that we don't need input from the board on... :)

I think Jorge had a nice succinct answer. It is part of prep, before anything else is done. Removing a stray feather is removing a stray feather. regardless of how it is done. IF we call that cooking, then aren't we all illegal? - the feathers were removed with scalding water or steam as part of the processing. So applying heat to the bird could potentially have started the cooking process, yadda, yadda...

Dan - not a dig at you, since I know you prefaced this question with winter bordem...

But another question in general...
At what point do we simply look to common sense to tell us vs. getting a ruling. If cooking is not the outcome, or the intent... why it is even in question? We need to have protections in place to avoid something like burning off a feather consuming board room time, right? If intent to defraud, cause some sort of malice, or provide an unfair advantage is the intent, then by all means put a rule in place to stop it... But for things such as this that seem so common sense, why would we cast any doubt?

Kinda like needing an "interpretation" of a rule that has been around forever.

Burn off a feather if you want, pluck or shave them, heck get the chemical hair remover made for chickens lol....
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I wish I could remember who said it but the quote went something like "... because common sense is far less common than it used to be."
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:51 AM   #34
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Well its definitely winter. Burning off pin feathers was a common practice for removing them. Although we have other methods now it is still an viable process for removing the pins. How it could ever been considered cooking is beyond me. The thing we seem to forget when debating these issues is INTENT. What is the intent? Pin feather burn quickly and you could easily burn the skin if you hesitate. By burn I mean char not render fat or crisp.
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:52 AM   #35
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will this methed work for the hair on my azz?
Yes, but make sure you post the video of it on YouTube.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:03 AM   #36
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I think I would keep any open flames clear of this area, go with the Nair, much safer.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:34 AM   #37
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Careful. This guy tried and it worked! But the method is flawed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6yvt...eature=related
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Hairy chicken is so good.
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Old 01-05-2010, 10:47 AM   #39
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Yet another area that we don't need input from the board on... :)

I think Jorge had a nice succinct answer. It is part of prep, before anything else is done. Removing a stray feather is removing a stray feather. regardless of how it is done. IF we call that cooking, then aren't we all illegal? - the feathers were removed with scalding water or steam as part of the processing. So applying heat to the bird could potentially have started the cooking process, yadda, yadda...

Dan - not a dig at you, since I know you prefaced this question with winter bordem...

But another question in general...
At what point do we simply look to common sense to tell us vs. getting a ruling. If cooking is not the outcome, or the intent... why it is even in question? We need to have protections in place to avoid something like burning off a feather consuming board room time, right? If intent to defraud, cause some sort of malice, or provide an unfair advantage is the intent, then by all means put a rule in place to stop it... But for things such as this that seem so common sense, why would we cast any doubt?

Kinda like needing an "interpretation" of a rule that has been around forever.

Burn off a feather if you want, pluck or shave them, heck get the chemical hair remover made for chickens lol....
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I think we just learned who the "Big Name Team" was that Ryan caught lighting their chicken. Looks like Andy's been holding out on me.

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i like my chicken hairy like my wife
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:01 AM   #41
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I think we just learned who the "Big Name Team" was that Ryan caught lighting their chicken. Looks like Andy's been holding out on me.
The phrase "lighting their chicken" gave me a serious case of giggle pants
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As long as the gas for the torch is made by the coal gasification method on site using charcoal or wood as the source fuel, then it should be legal. Here is a simple process flow chart for the process.

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Darn, I love the diagram. I spent four hours looking at it, but what I figure out is where is the bic lighter?
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If it was illegal couldn't you just stick a stick into a fire until it caught and then use it to burn off the feather?
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use a match...just wait until the sulfar burns off and its just wood burning.LOL
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