Non-Sanctioned Jack/Royal Qualifiers

[Divemaster]

We do one up in Wisconsin (Lone Wolf) that isn't a qualifier nor sanc.

It's our first one of the year and kind of a shake out comp for us. Now I must say that this is a very unique comp so that may have some thing to do with it.

Normally I'm looking for KCBS but I don't turn down some thing that isn't out of hand.

[FatBoyz]

non sactioned contest can be fon and have great prizes just ask ford

[Ford]

Originally Posted by Divemaster

We do one up in Wisconsin (Lone Wolf) that isn't a qualifier nor sanc.

It's our first one of the year and kind of a shake out comp for us. Now I must say that this is a very unique comp so that may have some thing to do with it.

Normally I'm looking for KCBS but I don't turn down some thing that isn't out of hand.

Originally Posted by FatBoyz

non sactioned contest can be fon and have great prizes just ask ford

And it doesn't have a governors proclamation so it's not a qualifier for any of the invitationals. But as Dive and Billy know it does have an onsite bar with a firehouse pole on the dance floor and some excellent hosts.

And you know Billy I think I hear a Harley calling me now

[Ford]

Originally Posted by backyardchef

If a contest qualified you for the Jack and/or the Royal, but was not sanctioned by a BBQ organization, would you cook it?

If yes, why? If no, why?

Yes - if I know it's going to be well run, if the location is good, if I can get assurances that it will be a fair contest and not a local team wins thing and that it uses standard judging criteria that is not stolen from the KCBS. I'd want to understand everything up front before making a decision. I've been burned too many times on peoples choice voting, etc. And the money would hvae to be good. Having a Harley as GC always helps.

No - unless I know exactly what the rules are published up front and unless I know the people running it, I would not go. Way to many people just out to make a buck and rip off cooks. I know when it's sanctioned then I can trust it.

[Ford]

Originally Posted by drbbq

That's my answer too. I may do it if the location and fun factor looked good but I would expect issues (because everytime I've done it there have been some) and be willing to accept it that day. I know everybody in the NE is pissed at KCBS right now and I know people don't think what KCBS offers is worth the money but I disagree completely.

I've watched it grow for many years and while I disagree with much of what KCBS does these days I would never even consider having a contest without using them.

I must be getting old. Here I am agreeing with you totally on this. BTW if you can make that Wolf it down contest in WI you'd love it. And obviously the judges know what they're doing based on last years results.

[Spydermike72]

Originally Posted by Ford

And obviously the judges know what they're doing based on last years results.

I love that answer!!!

[Divemaster]

Originally Posted by Ford

And obviously the judges know what they're doing based on last years results.

Originally Posted by Spydermike72

I love that answer!!!

First timers... They had no idea, but this year they do.... Watch your back Ford... I'm coming for ya!

[Ford]

Originally Posted by Divemaster

First timers... They had no idea, but this year they do.... Watch your back Ford... I'm coming for ya!

I'm hoping Coz doesn't cook so he can be watching my back. And remember that you'll be on my turf next weekend. My possee will be showing up both Friday night and Saturday. I promsied to feed some of my clients. Unfortunately Carol and the wild beasts will not be there.

[Divemaster]

Originally Posted by Ford

I'm hoping Coz doesn't cook so he can be watching my back.

I'm hoping that he does!

Originally Posted by Ford

And remember that you'll be on my turf next weekend. My possee will be showing up both Friday night and Saturday. I promsied to feed some of my clients.

I'll sleep with one eye open... lol

Originally Posted by Ford

Unfortunately Carol and the wild beasts will not be there.

Dang! I was hoping to meet her!

[Coz]

Coz will be there being Fords clean up bitch.Poor bastridge cant afford too many comps .I would like to compete a little more but its just the way it is.

[Lakeside Smoker]

I also think the success of a contest has a lot to do with a good organizer, not the sanctioning body.

[backyardchef]

Originally Posted by drbbq

I know everybody in the NE is pissed at KCBS right now and I know people don't think what KCBS offers is worth the money but I disagree completely.

I've watched it grow for many years and while I disagree with much of what KCBS does these days I would never even consider having a contest without using them.

Doc, I hear you. And my post was not just motivated by the recent events between KCBS and NEBS, but out of the hope for the growth of other sanctioning organizations-- not to KCBS' detriment, but to the better for cooks w/ more diverse contest styles.

I understand the benefits of having sanctioning from KCBS-- rules, reps, judges, consitency, less chance of funny business, etc....and respect all of that, even if the (p.r.) behavior of the organization as it grows becomes more unpalatable.

A greater variety of contest styles (grilling, backyarder, etc...) keeps the sport within reach of both 'career' competitiors and weekend warriors that just want to drink and hang out. I look forward to people nurturing both without either being a rip-off or a fix, just more well run events for the growth of BBQ.....without infringing on intellectual properties.....

[HONCHO GREGORY]

Hey folks; please give us a chance. We run a non-san. event under the watchfull eyes of the National BBQ Festival. We run the Smokin Eagles International BBQ Festival in Wheatfield NY. We are a qualifier for the BIG show in Douglas GA. The proud home of the National Barbecue News, Publisher Kell Phelps, from the famed Phelps Family. Now you all know how much the Phelps have helped moved BBQ in the future, with the can do attitude. So please don't judge an event by the sanctioning body. Because we don't have one either. Please judge us on our own merits. It was said "that this event was one of the best, if not the best we have ever been at" by the BBQ news staff writer the Honorable Rocky Danner. Thank You, again Rocky. So please come enjoy our event, We got big plans for this year.

Thank You for reading
Chairman, Smokin Eagles International BBQ Festival
Roy "Honcho" Gregory [email protected]

[Big George's BBQ]

I would go to a non state champ contest. I am doing it at Green Lane. I have only done well at one contest- New Holland last year. I have not figured out how I did that. I am there to have fun with my team and the other teams there. I figure the only way a Comp can become a State Comp is if there are enough teams. Someone has to do it. Right now if I made it to the Jack or the Royal it would be great and error with someones taste buds

[Tarheel]

We did Louisa last year also. It was licenced by the KCBS and they also had help from the Mid Atlantic BBQ. Bill and his crew did a outstanding job with it and this year has turned it into a sactioned event. I probably would have gone back even if it wasn't.

Roy