Smokin w/ Myron Mixon

motoeric · 08-20-2011, 12:02 AM

Hi,

I'm really enjoying Myron's book, but I'm a little confused by the recommended temps for pork butt and brisket.

If you've read the book, can you please offer your thoughts? The temps that he is recommending you pull, wrap and store the meats seems so high that I would have assumed prior to reading the book would have resulted in overcooking the meat via the carryover heat.

Am I nuts here? I mean, who am I to question Myron Mixon?

How much of a rise in temperature of a meat can you expect after foiling and throwing it in the cooler?

Thanks!

Eric

Curly Tails · 08-20-2011, 07:19 AM

Sometimes the meat temp will raise 10 degrees if you just place it in a cooler or cambro style carrier.

boogiesnap · 08-20-2011, 08:21 AM

I haven't read the book, but I'm a little surprised he goes by temp

Bbq Bubba · 08-20-2011, 08:24 AM

His higher finishing temps reflect his high cooking temp.

Boshizzle · 08-20-2011, 08:38 AM

I was at a comp last weekend where Mixon was competing. As I was walking past his cooking area I glanced over at his pit. The thermometer was reading 300 degrees F.

Keep in mind that while high heat cooks take less time the internal temp of the meat has to be higher to reach tenderness than it would be cooking at lower temps. Once you remove a piece of meat from a smoker and put it in a cooler you are still cooking it with carry over heat. So, a high temp butt still takes at least 7 hours when you estimate 5 hours in the smoker and two hours resting.

btcg · 08-20-2011, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoeric

Hi,

I'm really enjoying Myron's book, but I'm a little confused by the recommended temps for pork butt and brisket.

If you've read the book, can you please offer your thoughts? The temps that he is recommending you pull, wrap and store the meats seems so high that I would have assumed prior to reading the book would have resulted in overcooking the meat via the carryover heat.

Am I nuts here? I mean, who am I to question Myron Mixon?

How much of a rise in temperature of a meat can you expect after foiling and throwing it in the cooler?

Thanks!

Eric

Hi Eric,

Ain't read the book.... but I attended the JOS cooking school. Also did Johnny Trigg's and Rod Grays class... AND... I don't cook like any of them.

I much prefer to low & slo... @ about 225.

I'd suggest you study the book carefully, and then decide how Myron's technique fits with you. But keep this experience as just another chapter in the "how to" book of BBQ.

monty3777 · 08-20-2011, 10:49 AM

I took his class in 2008 (I think). He cooks high!!

The Cosmic Pig · 08-20-2011, 05:43 PM

After cooking close to Myron last year in Barnesville, GA, and seeing how "late" in the morning they actually started cooking, I decided to try the "hot and fast" method. I cooked at 300 degrees for about 5 hours, or until the internal temp hit 200 degrees. When I first pulled the pork, I thought it was going to be tough - judging by the way it pulled. But once on a sandwich, it wasn't tough at all! However, if I were going to vend BBQ I would have cooked slow because it would have taken so much longer to pull the meat otherwise. Could someone please tell me why the difference? Does it have something to do with resting time(s)? I can't remember how long I let it rest for the hot and fast cook...Thanky!

The Cosmic Pig · 08-20-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boshizzle

I was at a comp last weekend where Mixon was competing. As I was walking past his cooking area I glanced over at his pit. The thermometer was reading 300 degrees F.

Keep in mind that while high heat cooks take less time the internal temp of the meat has to be higher to reach tenderness than it would be cooking at lower temps. Once you remove a piece of meat from a smoker and put it in a cooler you are still cooking it with carry over heat. So, a high temp butt still takes at least 7 hours when you estimate 5 hours in the smoker and two hours resting.

Good info! I wondered why the butts I cooked hot and fast weren't nearly as tender as the ones I cooked slowly, even though they reached the same internal temp.

Terry The Toad · 08-20-2011, 06:26 PM

I've read his book, but I don't have enough experience to comment on his temps. Well, I guess I have enough to say I'll stick with what I know (and that is "low and slow".)

But, I do recommend his book for the recipes. There are several for chicken I want to try. My family can't eat babyback-ribs or pulled pork EVERY weekend. (Although I could.)

NorthwestBBQ · 10-05-2011, 08:19 PM

I just received my copy and after a quick scan, I can't wait to try some of the recipes and techniques.

sdbbq1234 · 10-05-2011, 08:37 PM

Myron's method of cooking high and fast is not much different than cooking in an oven. Way back when, we used to cook brisket in the oven in a cooking bag or wrapped in foil on 325 with onions, carrorts, celery, etc... Always came out tender and moist.

I still think low 'n slow gets more smoke (BBQ) flavor for me.

wallace

Hoss · 10-05-2011, 10:10 PM

The HOTTER you cook it the more the carryover temp will rise during the rest period.That is true with ANYTHING. If you cook a rib roast lo-n-slow it will be the same throughout.If you cook it HOT the outter ring will be WAY more done than the middle when the middle hits your desired temp.Works for some,but not for me. I'll NEVER argue with Myron or any other chef/cook.The reason people/cooks write books is to make money.PERIOD.

Bigg Higg's BBQ · 10-05-2011, 10:37 PM

Ive read the book and cooked 2 9lb butts last saturday for Homecoming at church on Sunday. I followed the recipie in the book including the injection, rub and sauce. I did not glaze. Cook Temp was 275-300. The book calls for a cook temp of 250. I pulled the butts at 205* (as usual) which took about 7 hours including changing aluminum pans, etc.... total time in the uds was probably 6 hours and 15 minutes, foiled and coolered for 3 hours. When i opened the foil to pull the pork for serving, it fell apart. It was probably some of the better pork ive cooked, not the best, but very good. Clean up was very easy.

tmehlhorn · 10-06-2011, 01:33 AM

Ive start smoking higher lately, 275-300 regulary and and it isnt anything to hit 325 if im in a hurry. With a boston butt on this method i go to about 195, wrap and let rest. Always tender, and has plenty of smoke

08-20-2011, 12:02 AM	#1
motoeric Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-07-06 Location: huntington, ny	Smokin w/ Myron Mixon Hi, I'm really enjoying Myron's book, but I'm a little confused by the recommended temps for pork butt and brisket. If you've read the book, can you please offer your thoughts? The temps that he is recommending you pull, wrap and store the meats seems so high that I would have assumed prior to reading the book would have resulted in overcooking the meat via the carryover heat. Am I nuts here? I mean, who am I to question Myron Mixon? How much of a rise in temperature of a meat can you expect after foiling and throwing it in the cooler? Thanks! Eric __________________ Smoke Signals Current Issue A BBQ Brethren Publication 2 Thessalonians 2:15 Exodus 12:9

08-20-2011, 08:21 AM	#3
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND	I haven't read the book, but I'm a little surprised he goes by temp __________________ [SIZE="3"][B][COLOR="Blue"][I][FONT="Lucida Sans Unicode"][/FONT]"YAWN"[/I][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]-[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="2"]In memory of a friend.[/SIZE][/COLOR] avatar by grillman. patent pending. :mad2::becky:

08-20-2011, 08:24 AM	#4
Bbq Bubba somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-03-07 Location: New Baltimore, Mi.	His higher finishing temps reflect his high cooking temp. __________________ Owner of Bubba's BBQ & Catering L.L.C. Beer Snob I cook the #bestbrisketnorthoftexas. Get over it. #detroitporkmafia BBQ Person of the Year 2013

08-20-2011, 08:38 AM	#5
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	I was at a comp last weekend where Mixon was competing. As I was walking past his cooking area I glanced over at his pit. The thermometer was reading 300 degrees F. Keep in mind that while high heat cooks take less time the internal temp of the meat has to be higher to reach tenderness than it would be cooking at lower temps. Once you remove a piece of meat from a smoker and put it in a cooler you are still cooking it with carry over heat. So, a high temp butt still takes at least 7 hours when you estimate 5 hours in the smoker and two hours resting. __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

08-20-2011, 10:49 AM	#7
monty3777 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-08 Location: Happytown, IA	I took his class in 2008 (I think). He cooks high!! __________________ John 21:9

08-20-2011, 07:19 AM	#2
Curly Tails Got Wood. Join Date: 05-29-11 Location: Dallas, Georgia	Sometimes the meat temp will raise 10 degrees if you just place it in a cooler or cambro style carrier.

08-20-2011, 05:43 PM	#8
The Cosmic Pig is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-09-09 Location: Maryville, TN	After cooking close to Myron last year in Barnesville, GA, and seeing how "late" in the morning they actually started cooking, I decided to try the "hot and fast" method. I cooked at 300 degrees for about 5 hours, or until the internal temp hit 200 degrees. When I first pulled the pork, I thought it was going to be tough - judging by the way it pulled. But once on a sandwich, it wasn't tough at all! However, if I were going to vend BBQ I would have cooked slow because it would have taken so much longer to pull the meat otherwise. Could someone please tell me why the difference? Does it have something to do with resting time(s)? I can't remember how long I let it rest for the hot and fast cook...Thanky! __________________ [B]The Cosmic Pig BBQ[/B] [B]Backwoods Competitor[/B] [B]FEC-100 [/B] [B]WSM 18.5[/B] [B]Weber One-Touch Gold [/B] [B]Smokey Joe Silver[/B]

08-20-2011, 06:26 PM	#10
Terry The Toad is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-16-11 Location: Saint Cloud, FL	I've read his book, but I don't have enough experience to comment on his temps. Well, I guess I have enough to say I'll stick with what I know (and that is "low and slow".) But, I do recommend his book for the recipes. There are several for chicken I want to try. My family can't eat babyback-ribs or pulled pork EVERY weekend. (Although I could.) Last edited by Terry The Toad; 08-20-2011 at 06:41 PM..

10-05-2011, 08:19 PM	#11
NorthwestBBQ somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-28-09 Location: Everett, WA	I just received my copy and after a quick scan, I can't wait to try some of the recipes and techniques.

10-05-2011, 08:37 PM	#12
sdbbq1234 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-11-10 Location: Northern VA	Myron's method of cooking high and fast is not much different than cooking in an oven. Way back when, we used to cook brisket in the oven in a cooking bag or wrapped in foil on 325 with onions, carrorts, celery, etc... Always came out tender and moist. I still think low 'n slow gets more smoke (BBQ) flavor for me. wallace __________________ wallace(Don) - Life Is Good But BBQ Is Better - BWS - Fat Boy - WSM 22.5 - A bunch on other outdoor cooking stuff. - KCBS CBJ# 58657 - MABA Member "Take luck!"

10-05-2011, 10:10 PM	#13
Hoss Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-31-09 Location: Hernando,MS	The HOTTER you cook it the more the carryover temp will rise during the rest period.That is true with ANYTHING. If you cook a rib roast lo-n-slow it will be the same throughout.If you cook it HOT the outter ring will be WAY more done than the middle when the middle hits your desired temp.Works for some,but not for me. I'll NEVER argue with Myron or any other chef/cook.The reason people/cooks write books is to make money.PERIOD.

10-05-2011, 10:37 PM	#14
Bigg Higg's BBQ Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 01-24-10 Location: Troy, NC	Ive read the book and cooked 2 9lb butts last saturday for Homecoming at church on Sunday. I followed the recipie in the book including the injection, rub and sauce. I did not glaze. Cook Temp was 275-300. The book calls for a cook temp of 250. I pulled the butts at 205* (as usual) which took about 7 hours including changing aluminum pans, etc.... total time in the uds was probably 6 hours and 15 minutes, foiled and coolered for 3 hours. When i opened the foil to pull the pork for serving, it fell apart. It was probably some of the better pork ive cooked, not the best, but very good. Clean up was very easy. __________________ 5 UDS's :becky: 2 Uni-Flame Kettle's Charbroil Gasser [LEFT][COLOR=#000000]Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. ~ Thomas Edison[/COLOR][/LEFT]

10-06-2011, 01:33 AM	#15
tmehlhorn Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 06-20-11 Location: pratt, KS	Ive start smoking higher lately, 275-300 regulary and and it isnt anything to hit 325 if im in a hurry. With a boston butt on this method i go to about 195, wrap and let rest. Always tender, and has plenty of smoke __________________ Weber performer, Smokey joe, Weber go anywhere. Mini-wsm, WSM-Soon

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