Ugly Drum Smoker - Page 356

sjm845 · 02-25-2010, 06:19 PM

I've got an idea for the doors that I'd like to try. I would cut the opening out in the drum and them use a donor drum to cut a slightly larger opening to cover the door. My mod wouldn't use a latch though. If magnets are good enough to seal the intakes for many, why wouldn't lining the perimeter of the door with magnets prevent the air escaping? The gauge of the steel would be similar so heat loss should not be a problem. You could use magnet strips if they were strong enough or I was planning on "borrowing" some high powered mags from the physics dept at school.

Do you think silicone would still be necessary? I've got 2 barrels in the yard and might just try this for version 2.0. Probably not anytime soon...wife is due next month so I'll be on lockdown! If anyone thinks it's a good idea try it out and let me know.

jkstone · 02-25-2010, 06:30 PM

I had considered magnets, just make sure you find some that are rated for high heat. Regular magnets (even standard neodinium (sp?) magnets) will lose their power under high heat.

hath · 02-25-2010, 06:31 PM

yes... some do deteriorate under heat... but those using fridge magnets dont seem to have an issue...

sdb25 · 02-25-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jkstone

OK, so first off... thanks for the great info... really, everyone! I decided to through the K.I.S.S. method out the window despite a lot of advice to the contrary. Anyhow, here is my UDS:

http://stonejk.blogspot.com/2010/02/smoker.html

Let me know what you think!

Drum looks nice. Looks like you got a nice seal on the doors! You use the doors much? I thought about making a drum like that ages ago. Now, I just like 'em plain and ugly as I can. I don't even paint 'em, just let 'em rust.

jkstone · 02-25-2010, 06:36 PM

I would venture to guess that there is a signifigant heat difference and strength needed to hold a door shut inside the barrel versus the heat on the outside the barrel and strength needed to simply bock an intake vent.

I have only cooked (still cooking) on mine once... we'll see how often I use the doors after a few cooks. I don't anticipate using them a lot, but I like the option.

Paul B · 02-25-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirage_Man

What are the bolts for that are sticking through the beaten flat lip? Also and chance you would post a close-up pic of how the lid sits on the drum? I have a SS drum that I'm trying to decide what I'm going to use for a lid.

Since the lid was a tad small I had to mash out the lip of the dome so it would fit on the drum. It sat fine on the drum but in a wind I felt that it would blow off and it didn't seal real well. So I sat back and thought......light bulb momennt and I drilled four holes and installed four nuts and bolts. They just happen to angle in on their own and now hold the lid securely. Still did not seal to my likeing so I applied some furnace gasket to the lid. Now with the bolts and gasket I have a secure lid with no leaks. Smoke on......

Pic:

Lid with gasket:

Hope this helps, if not ask away

.

If you take note the pic of the drum with the lid on it is in use.........

Paul B
SS UDS

BadHorsieBBQ · 02-26-2010, 09:53 AM

Burning out my drum this morning. One step closer.

NASCARican · 02-26-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BadHorsieBBQ

Burning out my drum this morning. One step closer.

AWESOME!! Good luck brother...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/a...&id=1638801679

h20loo · 02-26-2010, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkstone

I had considered magnets, just make sure you find some that are rated for high heat. Regular magnets (even standard neodinium (sp?) magnets) will lose their power under high heat.

I'm sure that there is truth to what you say but I think the defining temp is much higher than our drums achieve. I have often seen people use magnetic probe holders on the grill, and I have used magnetic intake dampers on my UDS at temps above 400 degrees.

jkstone · 02-26-2010, 10:42 AM

Only one way to settle this: FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!!

Or someone could try it. My biggest concern is the temp difference inside the barrel. I noticed during my cook yesterday that I could lay my hand flat on the outside of the barrel, but when I touched the cooking grate... OUCH!!

jkstone · 02-26-2010, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NASCARican

AWESOME!! Good luck brother...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/a...&id=1638801679

Now what is disturbing about this thread is the 3 pics of the dog, followed by fire, and meat.... WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG?!?

wayner123 · 02-26-2010, 12:35 PM

I found a few barrels that I am not sure will work. They used to hold spray-in foam insulation glue. He said the inside is bare metal with some small traces of glue. Do you all think these will be alright if I give it a burn and washing?

Mark · 02-26-2010, 12:49 PM

check the label on the drum and look up the warnings. some foams contain $hit like iso-cyanurate that break down into cyanide.

NASCARican · 02-26-2010, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkstone

Now what is disturbing about this thread is the 3 pics of the dog, followed by fire, and meat.... WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG?!?

HAHA!! She won't stay still long enough to get her in a pot...thats crazy gracie!!

BadHorsieBBQ · 02-26-2010, 01:20 PM

No police or firefighters. Guess I made it through the drum burn out ok. 98 percent of exterior paint gone. Only casualties to report are a few singed eyebrows and eye lashes.

My kids could not tell that there was anything different about my face, so I guess I am good.

A few more holes to drill, clean up paint, assembly and I will be ready to season my UDS.

02-25-2010, 06:19 PM	#5326
sjm845 Got Wood. Join Date: 07-07-09 Location: Sloatsburg, NY	I've got an idea for the doors that I'd like to try. I would cut the opening out in the drum and them use a donor drum to cut a slightly larger opening to cover the door. My mod wouldn't use a latch though. If magnets are good enough to seal the intakes for many, why wouldn't lining the perimeter of the door with magnets prevent the air escaping? The gauge of the steel would be similar so heat loss should not be a problem. You could use magnet strips if they were strong enough or I was planning on "borrowing" some high powered mags from the physics dept at school. Do you think silicone would still be necessary? I've got 2 barrels in the yard and might just try this for version 2.0. Probably not anytime soon...wife is due next month so I'll be on lockdown! If anyone thinks it's a good idea try it out and let me know. __________________ The TRASHMAN UDS HILLBILLY SMOKER TELL YOU WHAT BBQ SLOATSBURG, NY [URL="http://tellyouwhatbbq.com"]TELLYOUWHATBBQ.COM[/URL] [URL="http://facebook.com/tellyouwhatbbq"]facebook.com/tellyouwhatbbq[/URL] Twitter: [URL="http://twitter.com/tellyouwhatbbq"]@tellyouwhatbbq[/URL] RUB IT...SMOKE IT...PULL IT!

02-25-2010, 06:31 PM	#5328
hath On the road to being a farker Join Date: 12-29-09 Location: UT	yes... some do deteriorate under heat... but those using fridge magnets dont seem to have an issue... __________________ Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule or the chef.

02-26-2010, 12:49 PM	#5338
Mark somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: St. Peters MO: 38.786730,-90.642551 Name/Nickname : Mark	check the label on the drum and look up the warnings. some foams contain $hit like iso-cyanurate that break down into cyanide. __________________ Dr. Mark (STL) Ph.D. (honorary) Bovine $hitology A thin line separates paranoia from an acute understanding of reality.

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02-25-2010, 06:30 PM	#5327
jkstone Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 02-14-10 Location: Kansas City, KS	I had considered magnets, just make sure you find some that are rated for high heat. Regular magnets (even standard neodinium (sp?) magnets) will lose their power under high heat.

02-25-2010, 06:36 PM	#5330
jkstone Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 02-14-10 Location: Kansas City, KS	I would venture to guess that there is a signifigant heat difference and strength needed to hold a door shut inside the barrel versus the heat on the outside the barrel and strength needed to simply bock an intake vent. I have only cooked (still cooking) on mine once... we'll see how often I use the doors after a few cooks. I don't anticipate using them a lot, but I like the option.

02-26-2010, 09:53 AM	#5332
BadHorsieBBQ On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-29-10 Location: West Texas	Burning out my drum this morning. One step closer.

02-26-2010, 10:42 AM	#5335
jkstone Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 02-14-10 Location: Kansas City, KS	Only one way to settle this: FIGHT TO THE DEATH!!! Or someone could try it. My biggest concern is the temp difference inside the barrel. I noticed during my cook yesterday that I could lay my hand flat on the outside of the barrel, but when I touched the cooking grate... OUCH!!

02-26-2010, 12:35 PM	#5337
wayner123 Got Wood. Join Date: 01-14-10 Location: Deltona, FL	I found a few barrels that I am not sure will work. They used to hold spray-in foam insulation glue. He said the inside is bare metal with some small traces of glue. Do you all think these will be alright if I give it a burn and washing?

02-26-2010, 01:20 PM	#5340
BadHorsieBBQ On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-29-10 Location: West Texas	No police or firefighters. Guess I made it through the drum burn out ok. 98 percent of exterior paint gone. Only casualties to report are a few singed eyebrows and eye lashes. My kids could not tell that there was anything different about my face, so I guess I am good. A few more holes to drill, clean up paint, assembly and I will be ready to season my UDS.