Vision Kamado - Indirect Setup - Page 3

seeker · 08-06-2012, 06:07 PM

Like Karjar said and I did in my original post, the notches are not ncessary to use the KJ setup. The only real benefit of the notches is it locks in the legs of the rack and makes in quite a bit more sturdy.

If you look at the Kamado Joe's fire ring, they have the same 3 notches so I just copied their layout.

Socks · 08-14-2012, 04:22 PM

For those who have a vision, you can also do low temps with just a cheap pizza pan wrapped in foil on the bottom rack in a pinch.

Tallen234 · 08-14-2012, 04:41 PM

Great Topic! I just got my Vision from Costco on Sunday. Getting ready to fire it up tomorrow (probably beer can chicken). With the temperature in Phoenix about 115, I probably don't need any fuel to get it going!

Has anyone tried the adjustable rig set up from the ceramic grill store? http://ceramicgrillstore.com/vision-big-green-egg.html

Kinda pricey but it does seem to have a bunch of options.

Socks · 08-14-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallen234

Great Topic! I just got my Vision from Costco on Sunday. Getting ready to fire it up tomorrow (probably beer can chicken). With the temperature in Phoenix about 115, I probably don't need any fuel to get it going!

Has anyone tried the adjustable rig set up from the ceramic grill store? http://ceramicgrillstore.com/vision-big-green-egg.html

Kinda pricey but it does seem to have a bunch of options.

What might be the advantages to that more expensive rig? I'm too tired to think for myself... Anyone interested in thinking on my behalf may do so at the beep.

beep.

Kathy's Smokin' · 08-14-2012, 08:28 PM

Socks, I do similar to you, use a cheapo cookie sheet above the stone. I think a 16" or 16.5" suits this kamado better than a 15", the one that came with it is 15" and as far as I can tell, is too small, lets too much heat past and chars the edges of what I'm cooking too much. My pizza pan is a rectangle and sits on the fire bowl but under the bi-level grill. Heat comes up directly from the two long sides of the cookie sheet. It's good enough for now and catches juices/fat keeping my kamado cleaner inside -- I like smoking large pork shoulders. At some point I'd like to improve my set-up but for now it works okay.

Thanks for the link to the ceramic grill store, Tallen234, I've bookmarked it to study later. I've cooked the most amazing grub on my Vision kamado, it's a huge pleasure to use after struggling so long on the old COS, you're in for a treat.

(Hey Socks, just noticed you're in TO, I lived there the first 42 years of my life!)

Tallen234 · 08-15-2012, 10:59 AM

At the very least, this store has a spider and stone that is "custom" made for the Vision. For someone like me who has very little mechanical know-how, I would lean toward buying someone ready to go, as opposed to modifying. (I would love to be able to "modify"). With the fancy rig, you get a better constructed grill, the spider, the stone and the drip pan. I may just buy the spider and stone from them. That is about $70.

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Originally Posted by Socks

What might be the advantages to that more expensive rig? I'm too tired to think for myself... Anyone interested in thinking on my behalf may do so at the beep.

beep.

Tallen234 · 08-15-2012, 11:11 AM

I just noticed that the KJ Deflector is not available on ACE Hardware or Amazon websites. Must be all of the Vision owners scrambling for them. Maybe I will stop by a local Ace to see if they still have one.

EDIT: I just went down to my local Ace Hardware and bought the KJ Deflector. It was 49.99.

Lars · 08-22-2012, 11:38 PM

Thanks for all the great info and Pix, I just picked up a Vision Classic at Costco last weekend and after seeing this thread earlier today I stopped by my local Ace Hardware and picked up a KJ deflector. I was surprised they had one!

Tomorrow: pork shoulder!

smaktalker · 08-23-2012, 08:48 PM

Why can't I find the heat deflector anywhere?????? Annoying as hell

Tallen234 · 08-23-2012, 09:43 PM

ACE Hardware seems your best bet. That's where I got mine.

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Originally Posted by smaktalker

Why can't I find the heat deflector anywhere?????? Annoying as hell

Crazy Harry · 08-23-2012, 09:53 PM

I got a Vision Kamado about 2 weeks ago and grilles some steaks.Foe smokingI realized I would need a diffuser. Vision sells one that is available at Hime Depot

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UDbmHKAdNqw

this unit has a bracket that places the stone below the grate so both grates can still be used for smoking. I checked at the local HD and this is only available on line

while I was there, I saw this for $13

Ialso picked up a 14" teracotta pot base for $9 and a couple of 1/2" non galvanized steel bars to make a bracket.

I tried it with some ABTs with good results.

the brackets put the plate 4" below the grate.

$9 for the plate and $6 for the steel is a lot better than $50 for their stone.

smaktalker · 08-25-2012, 10:11 AM

I found out from KJ, can't order online. Have to go to a supplier. Oh well. Ordered a heat deflector from Ace at store. 50 bucks cant go wrong...

skast · 09-06-2012, 07:22 PM

I just got back from Costco in Livermore. They still carry the Vision Classic for $399. I have not been able to find a deflector or volcanic stone for my Vision. Home Depot and Sears are both out of stock. I don't know where the closest Ace Hardware is, but will check online for info. Thanks for that. I used my Vision for the first time and fixed BBQ chicken. It was better tasking than results from my Weber gas grill. I had no trouble getting and holding temp after following your advice about lowering the flame within 50 degrees of coming to temp. 2 hours after closing the vents temp dropped to 150. It was stone cold this morning, but I was too chicken to touch it - just checked the thermometer.

AmericanCobra · 09-07-2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skast

I just got back from Costco in Livermore. They still carry the Vision Classic for $399. I have not been able to find a deflector or volcanic stone for my Vision. Home Depot and Sears are both out of stock. I don't know where the closest Ace Hardware is, but will check online for info. Thanks for that. I used my Vision for the first time and fixed BBQ chicken. It was better tasking than results from my Weber gas grill. I had no trouble getting and holding temp after following your advice about lowering the flame within 50 degrees of coming to temp. 2 hours after closing the vents temp dropped to 150. It was stone cold this morning, but I was too chicken to touch it - just checked the thermometer.

I bought a pizza stone from BBQ Galore wrapped in foil and placed it in a Spider rig from Ceramic Grill Store and it's been working just as well as my mother in laws BGE with plate setter...

bbqrules · 09-25-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Harry

I got a Vision Kamado about 2 weeks ago and grilles some steaks.Foe smokingI realized I would need a diffuser. Vision sells one that is available at Hime Depot

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UDbmHKAdNqw

this unit has a bracket that places the stone below the grate so both grates can still be used for smoking. I checked at the local HD and this is only available on line

while I was there, I saw this for $13

Ialso picked up a 14" teracotta pot base for $9 and a couple of 1/2" non galvanized steel bars to make a bracket.

I tried it with some ABTs with good results.

the brackets put the plate 4" below the grate.

$9 for the plate and $6 for the steel is a lot better than $50 for their stone.

I purchased the exact same pizza stone for my Vision and it has been working well. I love the "flower pot" setup. How is that holding up? Looks like a simple mod that will give me the lower grate surface area back for more meat during a low and slow.

I do love this grill.

08-14-2012, 08:28 PM	#35
Kathy's Smokin' Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-16-11 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada	Socks, I do similar to you, use a cheapo cookie sheet above the stone. I think a 16" or 16.5" suits this kamado better than a 15", the one that came with it is 15" and as far as I can tell, is too small, lets too much heat past and chars the edges of what I'm cooking too much. My pizza pan is a rectangle and sits on the fire bowl but under the bi-level grill. Heat comes up directly from the two long sides of the cookie sheet. It's good enough for now and catches juices/fat keeping my kamado cleaner inside -- I like smoking large pork shoulders. At some point I'd like to improve my set-up but for now it works okay. Thanks for the link to the ceramic grill store, Tallen234, I've bookmarked it to study later. I've cooked the most amazing grub on my Vision kamado, it's a huge pleasure to use after struggling so long on the old COS, you're in for a treat. (Hey Socks, just noticed you're in TO, I lived there the first 42 years of my life!) __________________ [COLOR="Sienna"][I][B]"Dragon-awe"[/B][/I] the Vision kamado, and a vision she is.[/COLOR] IMBAS [COLOR="Red"]MOINK[/COLOR] Ball certified by the Kink Of [COLOR="Red"]MOINK[/COLOR] hisself! [COLOR="Teal"][B]When all else fails just ask yourself, WWBD???[/B][/COLOR] [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=86"][I][B]Inspiration, boisterous merriment and good food are what Brethren Throwdowns are about![/B][/I][/URL] [B][I][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Walk in beauty, Dan Chambers.[/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][COLOR="DarkRed"]I am a success in life because I am loved.[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR="Lime"][I][B]"^^^ the fark is what u eats the frog wit not? Ban Ban"[/B][/I] [I][B]Southernsmoker[/B][/I][/COLOR]

08-15-2012, 11:11 AM	#37
Tallen234 Found some matches. Join Date: 07-10-12 Location: Phoenix,AZ	I just noticed that the KJ Deflector is not available on ACE Hardware or Amazon websites. Must be all of the Vision owners scrambling for them. Maybe I will stop by a local Ace to see if they still have one. EDIT: I just went down to my local Ace Hardware and bought the KJ Deflector. It was 49.99. Last edited by Tallen234; 08-15-2012 at 04:03 PM..

08-23-2012, 08:48 PM	#39
smaktalker Got rid of the matchlight. Join Date: 08-19-12 Location: Upland,	Wish I can find one Why can't I find the heat deflector anywhere?????? Annoying as hell

08-23-2012, 09:53 PM	#41
Crazy Harry is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 07-08-09 Location: Deer Park, Wa	I got a Vision Kamado about 2 weeks ago and grilles some steaks.Foe smokingI realized I would need a diffuser. Vision sells one that is available at Hime Depot http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...N#.UDbmHKAdNqw this unit has a bracket that places the stone below the grate so both grates can still be used for smoking. I checked at the local HD and this is only available on line while I was there, I saw this for $13 Ialso picked up a 14" teracotta pot base for $9 and a couple of 1/2" non galvanized steel bars to make a bracket. I tried it with some ABTs with good results. the brackets put the plate 4" below the grate. $9 for the plate and $6 for the steel is a lot better than $50 for their stone. __________________ No trees were harmed in presenting this post; however, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. [URL]http://www.teddybearcreations-wa.com[/URL] Note to mods: is the back link ok? When all else fails ......

08-06-2012, 06:07 PM	#31
seeker Found some matches. Join Date: 05-16-12 Location: vancouver,wa	Like Karjar said and I did in my original post, the notches are not ncessary to use the KJ setup. The only real benefit of the notches is it locks in the legs of the rack and makes in quite a bit more sturdy. If you look at the Kamado Joe's fire ring, they have the same 3 notches so I just copied their layout.

08-14-2012, 04:22 PM	#32
Socks Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 07-03-12 Location: Toronto	For those who have a vision, you can also do low temps with just a cheap pizza pan wrapped in foil on the bottom rack in a pinch.

08-14-2012, 04:41 PM	#33
Tallen234 Found some matches. Join Date: 07-10-12 Location: Phoenix,AZ	Great Topic! I just got my Vision from Costco on Sunday. Getting ready to fire it up tomorrow (probably beer can chicken). With the temperature in Phoenix about 115, I probably don't need any fuel to get it going! Has anyone tried the adjustable rig set up from the ceramic grill store? http://ceramicgrillstore.com/vision-big-green-egg.html Kinda pricey but it does seem to have a bunch of options.

08-22-2012, 11:38 PM	#38
Lars Found some matches. Join Date: 11-25-08 Location: Fullerton, CA	Thanks for all the great info and Pix, I just picked up a Vision Classic at Costco last weekend and after seeing this thread earlier today I stopped by my local Ace Hardware and picked up a KJ deflector. I was surprised they had one! Tomorrow: pork shoulder!

08-25-2012, 10:11 AM	#42
smaktalker Got rid of the matchlight. Join Date: 08-19-12 Location: Upland,	I found out from KJ, can't order online. Have to go to a supplier. Oh well. Ordered a heat deflector from Ace at store. 50 bucks cant go wrong...

09-06-2012, 07:22 PM	#43
skast Wandering around with a bag of matchlight, looking for a match. Join Date: 08-30-12 Location: Livermore, CA	I just got back from Costco in Livermore. They still carry the Vision Classic for $399. I have not been able to find a deflector or volcanic stone for my Vision. Home Depot and Sears are both out of stock. I don't know where the closest Ace Hardware is, but will check online for info. Thanks for that. I used my Vision for the first time and fixed BBQ chicken. It was better tasking than results from my Weber gas grill. I had no trouble getting and holding temp after following your advice about lowering the flame within 50 degrees of coming to temp. 2 hours after closing the vents temp dropped to 150. It was stone cold this morning, but I was too chicken to touch it - just checked the thermometer.